69S value and matching enginer number question

[tbahr]

Hello,

I am new the forum and had a couple of quick questions regarding a 1969 911S I am looking at. The VIN is 119300980, but unfortunately does not have a matching engine number.

First what is a typical value of a 69S roller in fair condition, some rust spots non structural that would need fixing.

In regards to matching numbers, when one receives a letter of authenticity, is there only 1 engine that will match this vin or is it a range of 69S engine numbers that would be considered matching.

Thanks everyone for their help,

TBAHR

[ibmiked]

I'm sure others will chime in, but here's my take. There is only one 'matching numbers' engine for your car, but an engine built around when the matching engine was time-wise and to the exact same specification would be considered 'correct' (albeit not matching). For example another '69 S motor in a '69 S would be correct but not matching.

If you read Sports Car Market, in the April issue editor Keith Martin has done a nice job of explaining why the market values matching over correct.

Good luck,
Mike

[super9064]

Mike I'm glad you pointed out that distinction, I assumed "correct" meant "matching" , it makes a huge difference.

[pu911rsr]

There are a few different senario's here, in decresing desirability and value.
1. matching numbers, engine car was built with.
2. Correct engine type but not engine installed by porsche at factory.
3. Non serialized engine, a replacement motor built on a unserialized case.
4. Incorrect engine type i.e. T motor in S chassis.
As far as valuation, figure out what it would take to get car in condition you desire and what it would take to buy car already in that condition, from there math is simple.
Phil

[72targa]

The other aspect is time. In other words, how big of a rush are you in? You may need to wait for something better to come along. Something most likely will but cars available for sale of late have been minimal at best. Those that have come up for sale seem to be at a premium but also seem to be continually available for sale. You have one in your sights but it already has a few knocks against it (original motor missing/rust). Thus, you're looking at an expensive restoration (see many threads here estimating the cost to restore on of these cars) and, unless you are really lucky, this car will only attain #2 or #3 status as mentioned above by Phil (pu911rsr).

So, is this the car you want to make your own or should you be patient and wait for the car you really want (and can afford)? The choice is up to you.

[tbahr]

thanks everyone for your input. I was rushing to judgment about finding an "S" without truly looking at true valuation. I will keep looking for another purchase.

[Piechamp]

Hello,

I am new the forum and had a couple of quick questions regarding a 1969 911S I am looking at. The VIN is 119300980, but unfortunately does not have a matching engine number.

First what is a typical value of a 69S roller in fair condition, some rust spots non structural that would need fixing.

In regards to matching numbers, when one receives a letter of authenticity, is there only 1 engine that will match this vin or is it a range of 69S engine numbers that would be considered matching.

Thanks everyone for their help,

TBAHR

Hey did you bit this car?

I have the motor in my 69E in Australia, also for sale here under 69S MFI motor and gearbox set for sale.

[Fishcop]

I can feel a mad scrambling of search engines trying to locate this car now

[Piechamp]

Pm sent to OP. Also listed in lost and found.

[BOYER73S]

Wow the internet at work