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    Senior Member CurtEgerer's Avatar
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    Eau Rouge in an Early 911

    I've always wondered what it would be like to go through Eau Rouge in a narrow-body early car.

    Click here for answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ84Fa-AqXY

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    Has this been posted before? Oh well, worth another look if it has.

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    I've seen that before - but well worth a second look. Some of his "moments" are a 10 on the pucker scale.
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    I have seen it before as well, but it was more fun this time around.
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    My favorite video of all time.

    More opposite lock than, well, "regular" lock!
    Todd
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    three rights make a left?
    http://www.youtube.com/v/8bN5Rq1siFk...en_US&amp;fs=1

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    Looks like he's driving on ice the way he's sawing on that wheel.
    Not sure that would be that much fun? Guess I like my race cars just a tad bit more stable.
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    An outsider's view!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hXjerSPMw&NR=1

    Check the amount of rubber he leaves on the track…
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    Yes, I have seen both of those before and well worth multiple looks. I have heard that he loves to drive his loose (no s--t!) and sets it up that way. That guy has phenominal car feel and control. I see a couple of moments there where that I would have looped the car no doubt. Like the opposite lock high speed turn after passing the Cortina. Priceless...

    I think I'll watch it again. Thanks for posting.
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    Upon further review....

    Fun to watch....for sure.
    The fast way around the track.....no way.

    He is obviously very competent with a highly over-steering set-up, but he is loosing time every turn (couple tenths in each), and every lap (multiple seconds) with this style of driving.

    You can see it in the videos.
    When he should be firmly on the accelerator coming out of turns, he has to feather it instead.
    Many times I see him lift a bit or feather the throttle in some of the sweepers and bends when instead he should be hard on it.
    By adjusting the basic handling setup of his car, and adopting his driving style....I'll wager he could pick up another 2-3 secs per lap easy.

    If his existing style was the definitive way to drive, you'd see all the F1 and other high end pros doing it.
    And of course, you don't.
    Just watch the Patrick Long video above for an example of how a pro would drive an early 911.

    Highly entertaining and fun to watch.
    Not the way you want to learn how to drive on the track though.
    -Doug
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    Patrick does a good bit of sawing at the wheel but the slide angle is not as great.

    Rally cars use that style, of course, and that is the fast way for them. They keep the car on the racing line by using some traction and engine power to make up for less grip.
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