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    Opinions on 1965 301121

    What do you think about this 65 on ebay? Finally something close to home but my first thought is something is up with the rear torsion tube because it's so low. Looks like all the early bits are there. Here is the link:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...#ht_500wt_1182

    Mike

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    I guess I don't like the looks of the undercarriage from the pics, and I would possibly guess that the car was lowered too much when they put the torsion bars back in on the car. The car was hit in the right front, you can see that by the vertical seam visible in the front trunk pic showing the inside wall of the right front area.

    You should contact the seller directly. I know who he is and have bought parts from him a few times. He's been heavily involved with 356's for many years and should be able to describe the undercarriage pretty well.

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    Opinions on 1965 301121

    Well, you're close enough to go for a look. I'm sure you're seeing the same things I am, floors, inner and outer rockers, and as Eric said, R/F damage , looks like a non-adjustable front end. Just how big of a project are you willing to undertake or pay for. At the right price the car could be saved. Are you that guy? I would think at the $5,000 it's at right now would be pretty close to what that car would be worth, given the work it will need.
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    Agree contacting the seller is the way to go...might go have a look see. Recently finished a project and not really excited about that level of metal replacement. It could be a sweet ride with several restoration directions one could take.

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    Has the hood latch panel been replaced? My early car has ribs on both sides of the latch..
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    If it's SN 121 you should nab it. The guy that rebuilt my 69S has #171 which is an engineless rust bucket. He's a Yoda on these old cars, been specializing on them for 34 years and says this thing in present condition is worth $30k. Restoring it is one of his retirement ideas. He wants to sell it to Seinfeld or some other Porsche Kahuna when he gets it up and running for six figures into the low 2's in todays market.
    There's a fraternity in the 65's that are called the first 200, meaning the first 200 911's ever made. Not quite 901's of '64 and not quite full production 911's. Porsche hadn't quite nailed the production line, and the first 200 cars are quirky, and have certain things exclusive to the one model. For example they hadn't standardized the bonnet latch which it on the left of the dash. His was under the steering column. Quirks like that apparantly make these really valuable to collectors.

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    Wow...10 cars after mine. And 6405 also the same.

    Yep, the hood latch panel has been replaced for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NV Stig View Post
    If it's SN 121 you should nab it. The guy that rebuilt my 69S has #171 which is an engineless rust bucket. He's a Yoda on these old cars, been specializing on them for 34 years and says this thing in present condition is worth $30k. Restoring it is one of his retirement ideas. He wants to sell it to Seinfeld or some other Porsche Kahuna when he gets it up and running for six figures into the low 2's in todays market.
    There's a fraternity in the 65's that are called the first 200, meaning the first 200 911's ever made. Not quite 901's of '64 and not quite full production 911's. Porsche hadn't quite nailed the production line, and the first 200 cars are quirky, and have certain things exclusive to the one model. For example they hadn't standardized the bonnet latch which it on the left of the dash. His was under the steering column. Quirks like that apparantly make these really valuable to collectors.
    Isn't this the 1,121st built vs. the 121st built? Still a neat early car and worth restoring but not part of the first 200 (232?). Just checking...
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    Its not among the 234 1964 cars. Its built aprox March-May 1965. # 1121 from the first production car, not including the 5 digit VIN test cars.

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    Vin 301121

    I am restoring VIN 300720, which requires 250 hours of metal work. That is 10k (250*40) for labour excluding sheetmetal. Looking at the photos of the undercarriage I can confirm that this car probably requires the same amount of metal work.
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