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  1. 02-24-2011, 03:44 AM #1
    hbrand
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    Exclamation Scam Alert 1970 Porsche 911S Yellow Coupe $ 17500

    Here is the link to the ad:
    http://www.autotraderclassics.com/cl...ationId=264685

    Below is the e-mail correspondence with the last e-mail first, so you need to read from the bottom up. Bmcar1@aol.com is me, blue2432 is the scammer


    Get lost buddy - that's the last message from the Scammer to me.

    Sent from my iPhone

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BMCAR1@aol.com
    To: blue2432@comcast.net
    Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:19:05 PM
    Subject: Re: Lead for 1970 Porsche 911


    Sounds like a scam to me.

    In a message dated 2/23/2011 2:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blue2432@comcast.net writes:
    Hi Harold,
    You can come in person after you've paid for it through ebay. If you're still interested, let me know because I have another interested buyer. Let me know either way. Thank you
    Craig

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BMCAR1@aol.com
    To: blue2432@comcast.net
    Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:44:53 AM
    Subject: Re: Lead for 1970 Porsche 911


    No need for that I come in Person.

    Thanks, Harold

    In a message dated 2/21/2011 8:55:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blue2432@comcast.net writes:
    Hi Harold,
    I'm waiting your decision regarding it and if I will not sell it until when you are available to come here I will let you know. I have to be honest and tell you that I have others interested in buying it. I decided to close the transaction under eBay's surveillance through ebay vehicle protection program, for our own protection.

    This is how the ebay vehicle protection program works:
    1. I will create the case transaction at them.
    2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.
    3. You will send the payment ($17,500) to ebay, not directly to me and ship the car to your location.
    4. After you will inspect/drive it and decide to keep it, eBay will forward me the funds and the deal is done.
    According their policies you have 2 days to test it. If by any reason it is not as described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees, but I am sure this will not be the case.

    If you agree with moving forward with the deal, please tell me when can you arrive here or email me your full name and shipping address, in order to open a case transaction regarding our deal at ebay and they will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.

    Regards,


    Craig Leszkiewicz



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BMCAR1@aol.com
    To: blue2432@comcast.net
    Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:01:02 AM
    Subject: Re: Lead for 1970 Porsche 911


    Craig, Love the color.
    Yes we would like to buy the car. That is my profession,
    we make them like new and find new owners.

    I can come early next week to meet you and the car and go to your bank. Then drive it down.
    Please let me know what is convenient for you so I can book my flight.

    Thanks, Harold Brandner

    In a message dated 2/19/2011 10:43:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blue2432@comcast.net writes:
    Hi Harold,
    This was my father's car. He passed away recently and I don't need it. As far as I know its an original. See all the pictures with the car here http://s1221.photobucket.com/albums/...11s/?start=all
    I'm afraid I cannot answer to all your questions regarding my father's car. Due to tons of emails received I've decided to sell the car through ebay. As an added security measure for us, payment will go to one of the most popular vehicle purchase protection programs available on the internet developed by ebay. Their program will allow you up to 2 days for inspection and you will have the possibility to reject it, if it's not as described. I don't know if you're still interested in buying my car but please let me know one way or the other. Thank you and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
    Craig

    Sent from my iPhone

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BMCAR1@aol.com
    To: blue2432@comcast.net
    Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 11:10:27 AM
    Subject: Re: Lead for 1970 Porsche 911


    I am in Florida, a work on Porsches.

    Please send Pictures, I can not find them anymore.

    Thanks, Harold

    In a message dated 2/19/2011 12:39:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blue2432@comcast.net writes:
    Hey Harold,
    I'm located in Washington, DC. The car is in my heated garage..
    Where do you live?
    Craig Leszkiewicz

    Sent from my iPhone

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BMCAR1@aol.com
    To: blue2432@comcast.net
    Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:06:36 AM
    Subject: Re: Lead for 1970 Porsche 911


    What is your address and where is the car.

    thanks, Harold Brandner

    In a message dated 2/18/2011 2:17:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blue2432@comcast.net writes:
    Hi Harold,
    My name is Craig Leszkiewicz.
    Please call me 631-693-5422.
    Thank you

    Sent from my iPhone




    Name: harold brandner
    Email: bmcar1@aol.com


    Message:

    I would like to buy the car, please e-mail your name and phone number. thanks, harold
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  2. 02-24-2011, 05:06 AM #2
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    I remember those photos from a dealer's website about 6 months ago or so. I specifically remember the chip in the windshield. Sadly somebody out there is going to lose a lot of money.
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  3. 02-24-2011, 06:48 AM #3
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    Remember, Ebay buyers insurance does not cover cars older than 10 years. When someone tells you that your can pay them thru Ebay's buyer protection and be covered, that is total BS and they are lying to you. Whenever possible, see the car before any payment is made, or at least have a trusted third party verify the car and the person first. We are living in hard economic times and thieves become more bold the worse the economy deteriorates.
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  4. 02-24-2011, 08:29 AM #4
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    99 and 44/100 percent sure this is my old car. I would be very interested to see how this plays out.
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  5. 02-24-2011, 08:44 AM #5
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    I've been messing with this putz for days now...we're at the "please send a hold deposit via moneygram" phase now...everyone here should jump on this ad and reply to him and make the scum work for this money
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  6. 02-24-2011, 08:48 AM #6
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    I'm wondering if the scammer actually owns the car or if he hi-jacked the photos/info???????????
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  7. 02-24-2011, 09:52 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Smith View Post
    99 and 44/100 percent sure this is my old car. I would be very interested to see how this plays out.
    Bobby
    I checked the VIN. Make that 100 % sure that it's my old S. I'll try to find a photo of when I owned it. I alway hated what the guy that purchased it did to "my car".
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  8. 02-24-2011, 09:59 AM #8
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    Sorry for the poor quality photo but you get the idea. Does not look like the same car after he finished with it.
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  9. 02-24-2011, 10:12 AM #9
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    Pics were on eBay...

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...888#post487289

    And here...

    http://www.forzamotorsports.com/1970911s/default.htm
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  10. 02-24-2011, 10:16 AM #10
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    I saw them at Forza. I am toying with this guy now. I agree with Schuey it is always fun to mess with these guys.
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