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    Porsche factory classic restoration shop

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    there were some earlier threads about how they missed some very basic details that would set off the Concour Judges.
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    I sure hope so Raj, but I wouldn't want to be the owner of this RS just to have the Factory learn how to get it right.

    Lets see. Terrible steering wheel recover, later style speedo and tach (no silver button) and an incorrect knobs on the pull switches.



    Didn't paint the fan strap black and used an incorrect black coil. Not huge stuff, but jeeze not that hard either.

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    I can help with the knob covers... looks like they need a correct muffler tip as well... Maybe Tony can send them a better steering wheel

    I wonder if they did any chroming, I know hexavalent isn't allowed in Germany any longer, and not everyone has nailed down trivalent yet.

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    Raj, you have pm's.
    cheers, Mike
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    These folks appear to do some nice work.

    http://www.caporsche.net/index.html

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    Porsche Classic showed at Essen last year a 67S they were working on. I was shocked how they ignored originality and the quite poor quality of their work. Look at the pictures and count the mistakes. They seem to use this awful greyish leather for all steering wheels wether its a RS or a 67S.
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    The factory needs to be THE Definitive global and unchallenged source of authenticity, accuracy and historical spirit. (Like the Vatican, if I may.)

    Examples like the above, where even a rank amateur such as I can do better with the resources of our board and my one car garage, do not advance that cause.

    The ongoing PR DISASTER with regard to our certificates of authenticity does not remotely help the situation.

    If I were Porsche I would do the following:

    1) INFILTRATE our community. . . the world's most profitable car company should make it a supervisory-board level priority to be PART of our gatherings, events, meetings, drives. . . they need a presence with the guys who are the soul of their brand in their (still, before China) largest market so they can see what's happening.

    2) RETAIN experts. . . why not send Wolfgang Duerheimer (not picking on him, I actually like him) over to Gunnar Racing for a few weeks a year so the factory can see how it's done?

    3) LEAD with programs. . . look at the successful mobile tradition that BMW has developed. . . this restoration of a 911T is an analog to when BMW restored a 2002 as part of its mobile tradition project-- or when M-B set up shop working over 300SLRs in California. . . The reproduction capability is there. . . it just has to be broader and UNQUESTIONABLY original . . .

    Perhaps the margin they make on a single 911 Turbo S far exceeds anything they could gain from supporting my old 2,0 liter car. . .
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    Porsche has a long history of "looking forward" and not paying attention to the past. After all, at one point they dumped 356 parts in the ocean! Then they suffered the ignominy of having Stoddard to be the only source for NOS parts. Now they are playing catchup, and have a new focus on the vintage market, but they still have a lot to learn, not the least of which is the "value" of supporting the hobbyist. To put this in another perspective, look at what Porsche is selling today... Expensive cars, to well heeled buyers. Most of these customers don't give a flip about authenticity of some old Porsche. This attitude unfortunately is also reflected in the PCA, more or less. In Germany, and other countries, not so much the US, the new thing is highly favored, and the old thing is discarded. This attitude permeates society. So it is a hard thing for them to realize the value we Americans (and Brits and Italians) place on old things.

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    I just wish Porsche could make performance longblocks available from the factory on par with how Ford/Chev/Mopar have. High performance at a reasonable price. A guy can dream, can't he?
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