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    901/10 is a 4 speed, A-HB-S-Z.

    69S would have had as standard 901/07 before Nov 68 and 901/13 after. A-F-M-S-Z.

    Of course you could order anything, kardex will reveal the original chassis number. Porsche dealer can look up the chassis by transaxle number if you find one friendly enough to do the lookup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajwans View Post
    901/10 is a 4 speed, A-HB-S-Z.

    69S would have had as standard 901/07 before Nov 68 and 901/13 after. A-F-M-S-Z.

    Of course you could order anything, kardex will reveal the original chassis number. Porsche dealer can look up the chassis by transaxle number if you find one friendly enough to do the lookup.

    andy
    Dealers don't have access to VIN from the unit numbers, heck we are even blocked from verifying if a car is matching with a 17-character VIN. I know I can lookup on 993s but 964 and older I can't verify them anymore...
    It gets even tricky through the importer.
    In the last 10 years things have changed a lot regarding VIN, serials and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickelplated5s View Post
    Now for the gurus, what did my 901/10 19767 come out of? Pretty sure a 69S.
    Yes, a 911S, but if you want the VIN, then that will cost you a Kardex.
    19767 is an engine build # that I would have to translate to a serial # for a type 901/10 engine, then reverse search for the chassis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudecot3 View Post
    Dealers don't have access to VIN from the unit numbers, heck we are even blocked from verifying if a car is matching with a 17-character VIN. I know I can lookup on 993s but 964 and older I can't verify them anymore...
    It gets even tricky through the importer.
    In the last 10 years things have changed a lot regarding VIN, serials and such.
    It seems that I keep getting busier as people realize that access is getting restricted. From 1950 through 1969 model years it is possible to get the Kardex, but reverse searches means scanning images for a particular number by eye; that is a lot of work. From 1970 through 1980 there are computer printout images, so it is easier to scan down a page (by eye) looking for the number; but the images are not very clear, and a lot of data is missing compared to the Kardex. Transmission #'s are hit and miss in particular and the leading digit (7) is missing on the pages so that is why so many CoA have the first digit missing. Then you get the errors such as an engine # repeated in the trans # box, or an incorrect paint code; some errors are obvious, but others can be very difficult to detect or correct. Worst are some of the Speedster Kardex that only have the VIN recorded, but most Kardex are missing at least some information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudecot3 View Post
    Dealers don't have access to VIN from the unit numbers, heck we are even blocked from verifying if a car is matching with a 17-character VIN. I know I can lookup on 993s but 964 and older I can't verify them anymore...
    It gets even tricky through the importer.
    In the last 10 years things have changed a lot regarding VIN, serials and such.
    I have personally had a dealer take a transaxle number and tell me the kardex details for the car it came from, a 69S. No idea how they did it and it was a few years back. Someone out there might have access to the older software that had this facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajwans View Post
    901/10 is a 4 speed, A-HB-S-Z.

    69S would have had as standard 901/07 before Nov 68 and 901/13 after. A-F-M-S-Z.

    Of course you could order anything, kardex will reveal the original chassis number. Porsche dealer can look up the chassis by transaxle number if you find one friendly enough to do the lookup.
    andy
    I've got the Kardex but its for the 67 chassis. The five speed 901 was in the car along with a 69S motor when I got it. That was in 1983. Numbers came from the shop but it's back in for dyno work so I'll personally check. I had the transmission rebuilt a long time ago and didn't know enough for the gears. I don't drive redline anymore but perhaps 110mph in 5th. Speedo is pretty accurate. Perhaps Dave can help with a Kardex for the motor umber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajwans View Post
    I have personally had a dealer take a transaxle number and tell me the kardex details for the car it came from, a 69S. No idea how they did it and it was a few years back. Someone out there might have access to the older software that had this facility.

    Andy
    The dealer probably had the distributor look through the Kardex images until the transaxle number was found. Each distributor has the set of discs with the images used by the group that prepares CoA / PPS / CTC or equivalent. It is easy but time consuming, so you have to be a favoured person, or pay for it. AFAIK, the Kardex images have to be used for the 1950 through 1969 cars. From 1970 through 1980 they must have a file of information they can search, but I think they have to enter one VIN at a time to see the data. For the 17 digit VIN's they have a much better set of data, but again they need to request one VIN at a time; not like looking down a spreadsheet or doing a search for a number.
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    PM to Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajwans View Post
    Seems like the real issue is the file marks.
    I think the grind marks were from casting flash removal during production.

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