Estimated hours needed for body work

[GTA246GT]

Hi,

I know, it's impossible to say how many hours a restoration takes, but maybe some one can give an estimate on:

- replace inner and outer sill
- replace floor, one side

By an qualified body repairer, but no Porsche experience.

My 911S is in a very poor shape rust wise.

Thanks
Bjorn

[PeterM1965]

Bjorn

I can't answer how long it will take but I will add that a shop that has experience with 911s will probably do the job faster, and if all things being equal, a better job. I've learned the hard way that you don't want somebody learning how to do something on your car.

Good luck on the restoration.

Peter M

[72targa]

Some ideas about what is involved...

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...970-2.2E-Resto

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...te-restoration!!

[nickd]

You need to speak to some reputable shops who know porsches - once you get stuck into floors and inner sills you will uncover more issues thats for sure. and if its as bad as you think it will be worse !!

[304065]

Agree with the above-- the problem is when you cut open the outer rocker, you see the damage to the inner, then you remove the inner and the longitudinal is shot. These three parts come together at a single seam and were joined with pinch welds by the factory. So it's very, very important to have the car mounted on a CELETTE bench when they come off- otherwise the doors won't slam right when you weld the new ones on! Replacing half a floor isn't so bad. . it's that just that R U S T never has the common courtesy to only form on half the floor.

What year 911S, Bjorn? That will inform the answers somewhat.

On this board you have several true experts when it comes to early 911 bodies-- try Damon Josz, SERIES900 here, and I know that Kevin Jeannette of Gunnar Racing fame also stops by. While an experienced expert is experienced enough never to quote prices over the phone, or without actually having the metal open, you may be able to get some more specific guidance as to the steps involved in the repair, and use that to inform your selection of a local shop to do the work.

Good luck! And let's see some photos of the "S!"

[Mr9146]

I you commit to the floor you commit to the whole restoration...

Seam weld it.

[GTA246GT]

Hi,

thanks for comments, my car is a 1969 2.0S 119 300 970.

Some more info about the 911S:

http://restoringa911s.blogspot.com/

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-911S-2.0-1969

I'll do a full nut&bolt restoration to as new standard, in it's original colour spec etc.

Best regards
Bjorn

[Macroni]

I am a bit perplexed at the inability to place an estimate on the hours required to do these repairs. It seems like such a straight forward question. Try posting the question on the bird. I did both rockers during my restoration. I can not tell you hours but I can give you an idea on cost!

[Gytis Kupinas]

I am a bit perplexed at the inability to place an estimate on the hours required to do these repairs. It seems like such a straight forward question. Try posting the question on the bird. I did both rockers during my restoration. I can not tell you hours but I can give you an idea on cost!

100% agree. A PROFESSIONAL shop, that had done restorations, should be able to give you detailed and accurate estimate on WORST CASE SCENARIO restoration.
Unless it is , so called, "100 point restoration" I fail to understand how Porsche differs from any other vehicle needed repairs. At the end of the day it is just a CAR.
All the same sequences and laws apply, as to any other car in body repair need, if you want to have all gaps in order and doors/trunk/lids to close with nice "dunk" and most importantly make sure car is straight ( geometrically) .


But WE created sort a situation were Porsche become not "a car" no more and WE are at the mercy of "reputable restorer" wich charges $100+ per hour, but has no time to do work order and estimate.

Bjorn, I am in the same boat, restoration estimates, for my cars, I was given constantly and I quote : "...write empty check..." and etc.

[JohnT]

The question is "what's behind door #2?" How much to repair a rocker panel depends on opening it up to see what there is to repair. One could give the "everything is rotten and needs to be replaced/rebuilt" price, which could be way to high once the actual damage is in view. Or the just replace the outer panel and weld it up price, which could (and probably will) be entirely too optimistic. I think there simply isn't enough information supplied to formulate a useful answer.

johnt