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    Congratulations to you and Sepia. Well deserved. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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    Hi Candyce,

    Looking at the list you put up of past Preservation award winners says quite a bit about you and Sepia. Your car is the oldest Porsche to win the award in this century. I have a hard time with a Preservation winner newer than the '70s so all the better is your first place award this year.

    A cross country trip would be a nice adventure for you in the Brown car. How about a trip to the Parade next summer at Monterey? Scott Hansen, myself and two other great friends had a fabulous drive to the last Rennsport at Monterey. We got off the Interstates west of Denver and had a fantastic drive to the coast from there on 2 laners. If this suggestion takes root, reach out to Scott for the route. It will be the best drive of your life.
    Brian

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    Hi Brian,

    When I first received the trophy, I looked for two things. Did another woman ever win by herself? Were there any other early 911 winners? To both, the answer was no. Just incredible!

    Looking at the list, a few things stood out ... over 60% of the Preservation winners were from the 1980s and 1990s. There were only two 356 winners, one early 911, and one early 914. The two time winners ...the Seeland and the Mansolino cars must be exceptional.

    Why is it difficult for the older cars to compete and win against the newer Porsches for the group prize? Why aren't there more early winners?

    The 911S continues to surprise me ... it can't be that unique. It is difficult for me to truly comprehend all of this. My name is on the trophy; but, many helped with the win. It is a great car, a great story, and it is my story. What can I say?

    By the way, when I walk by the trophy to get the mail, I rub my name.
    Last edited by Sepia911S; 11-28-2013 at 05:44 PM.
    Candyce
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    You've had quite a ride Candyce,,,,,may there be many more miles and smiles
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    Oh My Gosh!

    Brian, your quote about the ages of the preservation winners just kept popping into my thoughts. Being curious about the ages of the cars when they won, I did the math. The results were surprising.

    What does this all mean? If you look at the age of the cars and think about the preservation mileage requirements of at least 1,000 miles per year, it really makes it more of a challenge for the older cars to win. Something to think about ... What was the mileage of the winning cars?

    Your car is the oldest Porsche to win the award in this century. I have a hard time with a Preservation winner newer than the '70s so all the better is your first place award this year.



    1996, Manny Alban, 1973 914 2.0 23 years old
    1997, The Paschals, 1964 356 SC Coupe 33 years old
    1998, Donald & Scott Barr, 1983 911 SC 15 years old
    1999, Pat & Bonnie Yanahan, 1958 356 A Coupe 41 years old
    2000, George & Jean McClelland, 1986 928 S 14 years old
    2001, Hamp & Sue Miller, 1985 911 Carrera 16 years old
    2002, Mike & Linda Mansolino, 1989 911 Carrera 13 years old
    2003, Jerry Mangolin & Family, 1991 928 GT 12 years old
    2004, Chuck & Karen Leighton, 1975 911 S 29 years old
    2005, Garry Princl, 1988 924 S 17 years old
    2006, Bob & Pam Dunlap, 1975 914 1.8 31 years old
    2007, Mike & Linda Mansolino, 1989 911 Carrera 18 years old
    2008, David & Betty Seeland, 1987 911 Carrera 21 years old
    2009, Chuck & Joyce Gladle, 1985 928 S Coupe 24 years old
    2010, Bruce D. Gearns, 1987 944 S Coupe 23 years old
    2011, David & Betty Seeland, 1987 911 Carrera 24 years old
    2012, Michael Mansolino, 1989 Carrera Coupe 23 years old
    2013, Candyce Jones, 1973 911S 40 years old, 57,000 miles
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    Nobody Told Me

    Today, PCA Chicago held its once-a-year membership meeting. All the Chicago members who had participated in the Concours at Traverse City were asked to bring their awards. Sepia's awards were wrapped up in blankets and microfiber cloths, dragged through the snow in a wagon, and displayed.

    A Chicago television personality, Sandy Goldberg, is a new member. Introducing myself, I showed her the awards and "bragged" a bit. As she held my hand, she told me my story. She knew the color of the car.

    As my eyes grew big, I asked, "How do you know the story?"

    "I saw it on the news."

    "Really?"

    Somewhere in cyber-space is a news clip (?) about the 911. There have been a few interviews; but, I didn't think anything came of them. The remainder of this daunting Chicago winter will now be spent trying to remember the name of the reporter and looking for the clip online.

    My story is so very much about chance encounters changing my life ....



    Bewildered,
    Candyce
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    Peaches and Cream I tell you.....

    I am not surprised at all the newer cars winning. My first PCA meet ever in Traverse City, MI ....showed me very few cars built before 1973. In fact of all cars registered over 400 ONLY ONE 912...that most members never seen or understood. So that is why some early 911 owners and 356 owners quite going....Porsche cares mostly about new cars...ya they have a vintage parts department no better then Pelicans and actually more expensive...but the show in CA next year might bring out some older cars...
    Bill

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    Hello Bill,

    The Preservation numbers are startling, and thought provoking. The 911S continues to surprise me. I hope to see lots of early cars at Monterey. I wish more early 911s would compete at Parade. There seems to be a lot of interest in the street class. In MHO, the spectators like to look at all Porsches; but, everyone really like the early cars and the unusual ones.

    The Chicago Region event last Sunday was to encourage more members to concours their cars. Many members expressed concerns about cleaning and detailing. As you know, concoursing is so much more than having an immaculate car. My most cherished memories of the Parades are Concours Prep and the people I met ... their comments, their interest, the tips and advice, the teasing, all the car stories and BS. Everyone is willing to help. At Monterey, I will miss that. If I can concours a car, anyone can. The experience of concoursing is well worth the time and effort ... win or lose. My personal memories of Sepia are more precious than the fancy trophies she won.

    PCA needs Porsche AG to sponsor the Parade and defray costs. However, the Parade is very much about the members and engaging them in concoursing, auto crossing, tech school, driving tours, competitions, social events, etc. This Porsche world that we belong to encompasses a diverse, and opinionated group. Let's hope it stays that way.

    Peaches,

    Last edited by Sepia911S; 01-28-2014 at 12:51 PM.
    Candyce
    '73 911S, #9113301365
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    Hi

    Yes, we hope there are some early cars in the next PCA meet. We had this discussion before in how the PCA must include them offering more classes. But the truth is most early owners are not into spit shining their cars. I am more into originally not spit and polish.

    Your Sepia car had both spit shine and very original. It was the best car last year period. The other cars in our class were not very original, some had wrong wheels, bumpers and paint flaws. The second place car had incorrect items but was good enough for 2nd place which is fine. My point is there are very few older cars that are original including paint....very few. Thus the class is made up of some variation there of....
    Bill

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    1978 Ice Green 930 Coupe (under construction)
    1988 GP White 911 Coupe (White Knight) Daily Driver

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    Hello Bill,


    Winning at Parade in Preservation is all about who shows up. The little brown car shined at Traverse City. If it was competing at Monterey, it might not do as well. It is hard to beat the California cars. It just depends. When it competed and won at St. Charles, everyone was surprised ... including me.


    Sometimes, tradeoffs need to be made. The Cibie driving lights were removed because they were not original to the car. Those driving lights were installed very early in the car’s life. Jim installed them for safety because he was doing quite a bit of cross-country driving. When I was driving the back roads to Traverse City late at night, I wished I had those lights. When I am done showing the car, the lights will go back on.


    The S is in a time warp. There are not many cars like Sepia left. It is a challenge to keep and drive a car for 41 years and keep it original. Owners like to customize their cars. How original do these old cars need to be? 100%? Is 95% or 90% original good enough considering usage? Should someone stay home because their car is not 100% original? Lots of wonderful Porsches would never be seen and their stories never told. And, that would be a shame. The beautiful green car next to Sepia on the Concours has had a long interesting life and the story was told because the owner participated. The story of the leaf green Porsche was told because you participated.


    I think, most of the members of this Registry want to see the old cars ... original or not, clean or dusty. The Preservation Class would be very small indeed if only all original Porsches competed. Lets hope people come out, show their cars, and tell their stories.
    Candyce
    '73 911S, #9113301365
    Early S Registry #2027

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