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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUGS73E View Post
    Aggressive floor ventilation modifications . . .
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    1967 Porsche 2.0L 911 Coupe
    VIN: 307615
    Engine: 911381
    Trans: 200322
    Color: White (originally Polo Red)/Black Leatherette
    Mileage: 5,443 (indicated)
    Auction Estimate: -
    Sold for: TBD

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    Auction Description:

    This 1967 Porsche 911 is a short-wheelbase coupe project that retains its original 2.0-liter flat six and a 4-speed manual transmission. The car is being sold on behalf of its current owner, who reportedly purchased it from a family member in 1998 and drove it until 2004, when it was parked due to a frozen throttle shaft. Though largely complete, it has been sitting outdoors since and will require full restoration including extensive rust repair as detailed below. The car is sold with a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity verifying the matching engine along with a clean Oklahoma title in the owner’s name. Exterior sheet metal has been repainted in white over its original Polo Red and appears mostly straight, but bubbling and holes in its lower extremities hint at the extensive corrosion lurking beneath. Rust-through is pervasive in the rockers, floors, lower doors, spare tire well, and other areas as detailed below. Glass appears intact throughout, though the windshield is fogged at the corners, while plastic lenses are cracked and in need of replacement. Later plastic sideview mirrors have been fitted in place of the single chrome original item, and trim is pitted or otherwise showing its age. Factory 15″ chromed wheels are rusty and peeling, though all four polished hub caps are present.

    Door jambs appear relatively solid, while floors exist only in partial form and the rear parcel shelf is heavily corroded. Stock seats and door panels are retained inside, and the rest of the interior appears mostly complete aside from carpets. Optional 911S combination gauges feature the green lettering available for the last time in 1967. Simple switchgear looks mostly accounted for along with interior trim, though most pieces are in need of restoration. Remnants of a dealer-installed air conditioner are mounted beneath the dash and the rest of the system has been partially removed. A 1970s tape deck has replaced the original tri-band Blaupunkt radio, which is also included and photographed in the gallery below. The front storage compartment appears largely complete but shows a similar level of corrosion from heavy surface rust aft of the fuel tank to major perforation of the front corners and spare tire well. A nearly complete factory toolkit is included in the sale.

    The numbers-matching 2.0-liter flat six is said to be complete but has not been run in over ten years. Stock-looking Weber downdrafts remain fitted and are topped with a period Mann air cleaner assembly. The engine is mated to a type 902/0 4-speed manual gearbox that appears appropriate for the car but bears a different number stamp than that listed on the Certificate of Authenticity. No heat exchangers are present and exhaust headers are rusted through on at least one side.
    My kind of car... to be able to replace the inner rear trailing arm bushings from inside the car is a plus.

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    What's a '67S oil tank as opposed to a '67 normal oil tank. Nothing on PET but the COA for the white cars says '67S oil tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doigthom View Post
    What's a '67S oil tank as opposed to a '67 normal oil tank. Nothing on PET but the COA for the white cars says '67S oil tank.
    The CofA actually says "Oil Tank & Instruments for 911S" I think that's a garbled reference to an oil level gauge. Some [non-S] 1967 911s had the simpler 912-style gauge with fuel level but no oil level. All 911S cars had the fancy gauge.

    It seems Certificates of Authenticity are prepared in Atlanta by PCNA employees with imperfect knowledge of the German expressions used on a Kardex and who definitely don't obsess over all the arcane details of 356s and short-wheelbase 911s.
    Jim Alton
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    1965 Porsche 911 coupe
    1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet

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    its on BaT and I bid on it. Couldn't help myself

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    You need some serious help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doigthom View Post
    What's a '67S oil tank as opposed to a '67 normal oil tank. Nothing on PET but the COA for the white cars says '67S oil tank.
    911S instruments is what they called the option of the oil level sender and oil pressure sender, in an attempt to bring the price of the 911 down for the normal - the gauges were simplified with 912 units that only had temp and fuel level. The 911S oil tank would be a tank with a sender - some normal 67-68 cars got a oil tank with no sender. Most all cars in the US have the tank with the sender, almost all LWB have 911S gauges so there is not much special about that option, more of a delete on the normal cars.

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    FS: @RM|Sotheby's Amelia Island - 1966 2.0L 911 Coupé

    This 1966 MY was previously posted referring to a 2013 eBay auction:

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post675294
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...ht_4050wt_1111

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    Because it has a 1965 production date, it is being promoted as a 1965 model. At this point, actual photos of the car have not been posted on the R|M website.
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    R|M Sotheby Auction, Amelia Island, FL, 10-11 March 2017
    "1965 Porsche 911", Lot 279
    VIN: 303058
    Engine: 903330
    Trans: -
    Color: Irish Green/Beige Leatherette
    Mileage: -
    Auction Estimate: US$275,000 - $325,000 (Without Reserve)
    Sold for: US$192,500

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    Auction Description:

    This 911 was completed on 9 December 1965 in Irish Green with Beige Leatherette interior with an optional Webasto heater. It was originally sold to Joseph Thomas of New York and remained on the East Coast until it was sold to a long-term California owner in the 1980s. When its California owner decided to sell the car in 2013, it was in solid running and driving condition, though had been painted copper and fitted with a black interior.

    The current owner decided to return the car to its original specifications and commenced a comprehensive nut-and-bolt restoration. The body was stripped down to bare metal and properly finished and then repainted back to its original color of Irish Green. The original date-coded engine was completely rebuilt, including the original Solex carburetors, and was fitted with new pistons. Even the original Webasto heater was rebuilt and is fully functional. New old-stock parts were used when possible and every aspect of the car has been gone through, with a significant sum itself having been spent on the interior alone. Notable, the interior was also returned to its attractive original color. The only significant change made was redoing the interior in leather rather than vinyl leatherette. Included in the sale is a Certificate of Authenticity that confirms its original color combination and that it retains its original drivetrain.

    Since completion, this superb 911 has only been driven test miles and is now ready for its next owner to use and enjoy.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 03-12-2017 at 02:44 PM. Reason: Added sold for price.
    Doug Dill

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    PCA #1987109761
    Early 911S Registry #548

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUGS73E View Post
    This 1966 MY was previously posted referring to a 2013 eBay auction:

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post675294
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...ht_4050wt_1111

    66 911 0.jpg

    Because it has a 1965 production date, it is being promoted as a 1965 model. At this point, actual photos of the car have not been posted on the R|M website.
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    R|M Sotheby Auction, Amelia Island, FL, 10-11 March 2017
    "1965 Porsche 911", Lot 279
    VIN: 303058
    Engine: 903330
    Trans: -
    Color: Irish Green/Beige Leatherette
    Mileage: -
    Auction Estimate: US$275,000 - $325,000 (Without Reserve)

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    Auction Description:

    This 911 was completed on 9 December 1965 in Irish Green with Beige Leatherette interior with an optional Webasto heater. It was originally sold to Joseph Thomas of New York and remained on the East Coast until it was sold to a long-term California owner in the 1980s. When its California owner decided to sell the car in 2013, it was in solid running and driving condition, though had been painted copper and fitted with a black interior.

    The current owner decided to return the car to its original specifications and commenced a comprehensive nut-and-bolt restoration. The body was stripped down to bare metal and properly finished and then repainted back to its original color of Irish Green. The original date-coded engine was completely rebuilt, including the original Solex carburetors, and was fitted with new pistons. Even the original Webasto heater was rebuilt and is fully functional. New old-stock parts were used when possible and every aspect of the car has been gone through, with a significant sum itself having been spent on the interior alone. Notable, the interior was also returned to its attractive original color. The only significant change made was redoing the interior in leather rather than vinyl leatherette. Included in the sale is a Certificate of Authenticity that confirms its original color combination and that it retains its original drivetrain.

    Since completion, this superb 911 has only been driven test miles and is now ready for its next owner to use and enjoy.
    It would be more convincing had the current owner sprung for good reproduction Hella 128 fog lamps and found the correct angled 911 script and correct smaller [two piece] PORSCHE script for the rear deck lid.

    A few other oddities:
    • It's original owner was in New York but those look like European turn signals
    • The wiper arms should be silver, not black (at least they park on the right)
    • It looks like it has the wider bumper trim of a '67 911S and I don't know where the chrome (or stainless) rocker panel is from.
    Last edited by NeunElf; 02-23-2017 at 06:16 AM.
    Jim Alton
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    Early 911S Registry # 237

    1965 Porsche 911 coupe
    1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet

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    Irish green is interesting in that it has incorrect side decos and fog lights. When the original owner painted it copper and changed interior to black it had correct lights and decos. Now brought back to original colors but incorrect details. I can see if this was owners preference (did the decos on my 912) but the ad implies only test miles after restoration. If redone for flip why go for personal preference? Especially at $275,000.00 to $325,000.00. Easy fix but! Guess I'm just old and grumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeunElf View Post
    It would be more convincing had the current owner sprung for good reproduction Hella 128 fog lamps and found the correct angled 911 script and correct smaller [two piece] PORSCHE script for the rear deck lid.

    A few other oddities:
    • It's original owner was in New York but those look like European turn signals
    • The wiper arms should be silver, not black (at least they park on the right)
    • It looks like it has the wider bumper trim a '67 911S and I don't know where the chrome (or stainless) rocker panel is from.
    Quote Originally Posted by doigthom View Post
    Irish green is interesting in that it has incorrect side decos and fog lights. When the original owner painted it copper and changed interior to black it had correct lights and decos. Now brought back to original colors but incorrect details. I can see if this was owners preference (did the decos on my 912) but the ad implies only test miles after restoration. If redone for flip why go for personal preference? Especially at $275,000.00 to $325,000.00. Easy fix but! Guess I'm just old and grumpy.
    The photos currently on the website are NOT of the actual car, note each photo is labeled 'File Photo' in the lower right corner. Why R|M would do that is questionable since it adds confusion and dilutes from the authenticity of the actual car (if it was restored properly). I assume in the coming days, they will post photos of the actual car.
    Doug Dill

    1973 911E Coupe
    PCA #1987109761
    Early 911S Registry #548

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