I sort of like this car at $47,000. I figure about $200,000 in restoration costs and you've got a car that you can enjoy.
The big issue here will be the rust. I'm going to assume at least $25,000 in rust repair.
Richard Newton
Restoration is Destruction
Back to the real world here.
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BaT - $60,000
"Rust" repairs and not much in the way of photo documentation of the work. Could have been a money maker.
Early S Registry #235
rgruppe #111
Engine does not appear original with its induction hardware . . .
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Coys 'Techno Classica' Auction, Essen, Germany, April 8, 2017
1965 Porsche 2.0L 911 Coupe, Lot 128
VIN: 301276
Engine: -
Trans: -
Color: -
Mileage: -
Auction Estimate: €180,000 - €210,000/~US$195,000 - $227,000
Sold for: TBD
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Auction Description:
This breathtaking very early 911 was delivered in June 1965, and more recently has been the subject of a painstaking restoration by award-winning 356 and 911 restorer Sportwagen of England.
The 911 was taken back to its factory specification, documented by a photo- graphic record and file of invoices. Needless to say the cost of this level of work was high – the invoices totalled 165,000 in all.
This exceptionally well restored Porsche is offered in virtually as new condition, and offered with a UK MoT certificate and UK V5 document.
Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
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Not to mention knee pad, ignition switch, interior rear view mirror, and door panels....
Last edited by John912; 03-24-2017 at 01:48 PM.
John Schiavone
Connecticut
356 Cab, 66 911, 914-6, 550-Beck, 981 Cayman, 54 MV Agusta Dustbid
Originally Posted by DOUGS73E
"Engine does not appear original with its induction hardware . . ." To say the least...
Chassis # 301276 would have been built sometime around April 1965 so it should have all the '65 features, such as:
- Small brass (or black plastic for non-locking steering column) ignition bezel
- Knee pad does not wrap around sides of lower dash
- "Hockey Puck" horn button (there might have been a handful with an optional batwing but I'm not 100% convinced it was even an option then)
- Leather gearshift boot instead of rubber
- Wood steering wheel (leather-covered started in MY '67)
As to the engine: those definitely are not Solex 40PI carburetors. The engine sort of looks like it might have a block-off plate where a "tandem" fuel pump for the Solex carbs once lived but it does not have an oil line for the center lubricated camshafts. The last engine with center-lubricated camshafts was 903069 while the last Solex-carbureted engine was 903910 (21 February 1966) so there were engines like that but they came well after chassis # 301276.
Virtually all '65 911s had fog lights (ohne Mehrpreis)--this one doesn't. It has a single switch above the radio--right in the middle--which must be for a Webasto heater. I've never seen that.
It's hard to be certain but those look like 356 knobs on the radio. A dealer-installed radio could have had those knobs.
One thing's correct: most MY '66 cars had metal trim on the top and bottom edges of the wood on the dash--I've never seen that on MY '65 911.
The fuel filler release looks to be the same size as the hood release. It should be smaller.
I have a feeling the restorers didn't do a lot of research.
Jim Alton
Torrance, CA
Early 911S Registry # 237
1965 Porsche 911 coupe
1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet
I want to know who bankrolls these projects? Someone please tell me why an investor would choose some schmo who won't even take the time to do a little research to "restore" their flip?
If this car brings anything close to projections I will be thrilled.
(And... door strikers and latches are incorrect.)
I was thinking the shop that restored it did so "on spec" as opposed to for a customer who owned the car. Just an idea--I have no evidence.
I can't find "award-winning 356 and 911 restorer Sportwagen of England" with Google.
I did find a You Tube video of the car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WaFY9XcOmw. It gives a better view of the chain boxes and it turns out the left side one was for center-lubricated cams. I can see the right side oil line but nothing on the left. That would be a significant oversight.
Here's just the chain box; is it missing some of the rear tin?
Jim Alton
Torrance, CA
Early 911S Registry # 237
1965 Porsche 911 coupe
1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet
Jim
http://www.sportwagen.co.uk/
Regards
Mike
RS#1551(sold)
67S
73E (home after 25 years) and sold again
Early S reg. #681
"Our aim here at Sportwagen is to address every fault in order to create a classic that is absolutely correct, small details matter and it begins with the chassis. Every seam must be correct, the aim being to invisibly repair the car, using wherever possible the identical technique that was used back on the day the car was first created.
In order to achieve this a great deal of knowledge and reference capabilities are required, Porsche cars continually changed as they evolved, from day one, or rather day two as a nod to the G’Mund, back in 1950 when the first 356 coupes rolled off the production line.
With values of classic cars rocketing ever upwards, and Porsche being the most sought after of all the marques, it is critical that the car is correct.
Only time travel would take you back to seeing the car as it left the factory, but here at Sportwagen we try very hard to make that feeling come alive, and the results bear witness to that ethos."
What a BUNCH of baloney!
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