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    Unhappy 911/83 Engine help

    Hello Guys,

    Need some help here. I have being offered a 911 Targa, now here is where i am kind of confused

    Vin # 9114310 should be a 1974 Targa ROW

    Engine # 911/83 6668

    It has the CIS injection. It should be MFI ?

    I being looking aat the books, and it seems the engine is from a 76 carrera, but in the book, it does not state the 911/83.. Help

    Thanks for any input.
    San

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    Oh cool. This Targa has an engine from one of the rare (113) '76 2,7 Carreras. Here is a rather long thread that may help you learn more about these interesting cars. Can you give us the entire serial # of the engine?

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...7-carrera.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by platas View Post
    Hello Guys,

    Need some help here. I have being offered a 911 Targa, now here is where i am kind of confused

    Vin # 9114310 should be a 1974 Targa ROW

    Engine # 911/83 6668

    It has the CIS injection. It should be MFI ?

    I being looking aat the books, and it seems the engine is from a 76 carrera, but in the book, it does not state the 911/83.. Help

    Thanks for any input.
    If the Targa is a ROW Carrera up to and including some of the 1976 cars, it would have had the 911.83 "RS" engine. And yes, such a real authentic engine would have MFI. So, as mentioned above, a complete VIN and complete engine number will help to determine with some confidence what you are looking at. However, 911431xx would be a 1974 911S (not Carrera) Targa and would not have come with .83 engine. Photos are good too. Thanks.

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    To complicate matters further, a '74 911S Targa (911431XXXX) would originally come with a 911/93 engine (with CIS) - but the serial number wouldn't start with 6668 (it would start with 634) ...
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    Hello Guys,

    you are most certanly right. I am asking for more info, from the owner, but he does not want to send more, i might have to do the 4 hour trip to see the numbers my self.
    The car like statde is a regular 74 targa, but the engine block is 911/83, now the rest of the serial does not coincide.
    I have to hipotesiss.

    The owner way back when, did an engine swap, placed the regular cis, to save money, and has ran the car like this.
    The owner did as above, left the 911/83, but placed an imporper serial number, may be from the engine he replaced, wich in this case was not the original either.

    I will try to place pics of the car today.

    ANDY, you have a PM.

    thanks to all, before hand, maybe i can desifer this car once and for all.

    cheers

    san
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyjboy View Post
    To complicate matters further, a '74 911S Targa (911431XXXX) would originally come with a 911/93 engine (with CIS) - but the serial number wouldn't start with 6668 (it would start with 634) ...
    Good point. Bet on closer inspection it is, in fact, a 911.93 engine. Thanks.

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    Hello Guys,

    An update : Talked to the guy againg ! this is what he has
    Engine number 6668053
    Vin number 9114310581

    To me it looks like a carrera 3.0 from 76, but then the 911/83 does not fit.
    I am going to see ths car personally, i thinh his owner really does not know too much or he is confused, or maybe its not what it seems it is.
    I sent some pics to Ryan, so he can post them here.
    San

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    San - the VIN is from a '74 911S Targa as mentioned in earlier posts.

    Engine number is from a '76 2.7 Euro Carrera (911/83 mfi) - one of the 123 '76 cars homologated as 'RS' models.
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    Andy,

    One of the interesting things that came out in that long thread on Pelican is the probability there were 113 MFI coupes produced. No one has seen a VIN from 1 to 10 so most likely the first one is 11. Anyway, the engine in this Targa is a rare one indeed. I wonder which Carrera it was in originally.
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    Here are some of the key photos that San sent. They are pretty small thumbnails.

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