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    Quote Originally Posted by indienestmonnom View Post
    Apparently ... So here we probably are, with the 118 2 0472 !

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    Is there now a definitive proof that #210 was 118 2 0472?

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    I have a kardex for 118 2 0472 that shows it as blutorange, it being a werks owned competition car, and it having engine modifications to increase power on 17 January 1968. ie just before the Monte on 19 January.

    I don't think that any other car but Elford's S C 9166 will fit that description. So while I don't have a factory document showing him entered in the 1968 Monte Carlo with that vin written against it I think that is about as good a proof as is possible

    Another kardex I have for 118 2 0433 shows it being white with the same engine modification on the same day so I believe that is Zasada's SC 9167

    In addition the recent book on Porsche's at the Monte Carlo shows those vins against the respective cars and also 118 2 0455 against the Toivonen car. On its kardex it does not have the same notation about engine modifications but does have another stamped one the same as customer competition cars had when they were sent to Werk1 for "tuning" before delivery
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    As close as a definitive proof as you can get, then.
    Is there a way to have access to the Stuttgart area registration files?

    Next question is: Where are these cars, now?

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    A favorite picture of S-C 9166 while at the factory getting ready for Monte. Lots of details in the picture.
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    That is an AWESOME pic....can't make out the brand of smokes in his left hand....I don't think you will find many drivers today attending to decal placement.....Vic is THE MAN!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmill View Post
    can't make out the brand of smokes in his left hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by haul View Post
    the healthy ones, non filter...
    I used to smoke those when I lived in Bologna...definitely has an OOMPH!
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    1970 911S 2.2 / 2.3 “Rally”



    7 werks cars
    9110300001 engine S-T 5704 first event:1970 Monte Carlo; car #6
    9110300002 engine S-T 5705 first event: 1970 Monte Carlo; car #2
    9110300003 engine S-T 5706 first event: 1970 Monte Carlo; car #11
    9110300949 engine S-R 2970 first event: 1970 Austrian Alpine Rally; car #3
    9110300950 engine
    6301281 S-R 2971 first event: 1970 Swedish Rally; car #9
    9110301127 engine 6301557 S-U 9370 first event: 1970 Austrian Alpine Rally; car #4
    9110300102 engine possibly S-T 5158 first event: 1970 Swedish Rally; car #2


    The first 3 were Tangerine, the others Orange
    Only 6 engine numbers shown.
    6300159; 6301294; 6301281; 6301557; 6308505; 6308506.

    9110301127 is known to have used 6301557 on the Austrian Alpine rally

    However likely that some cars used multiple engines, 1127 did.

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    9110300001. S-T 5704. 1970 Monte Carlo; car #6 Waldergard / Helmer

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    9110300002 S-T 5705: 1970 Monte Carlo; car #2 Larrousse / Gelin

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    9110300003 S-T 5706: 1970 Monte Carlo; car #11 Åke Andersson/Bo Thorselius


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    9110300949 S-R 2970: 1970 Austrian Alpine Rally; car #3 Waldegaard/Helmer

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    9110300950 S-R 2971: 1970 Swedish Rally; car #9 Andersen/Torzelius



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    This page attaches the license plate D-ED 71 to this chassis number. Seeing the post. Is the page wrong? Is it the same vehicle?
    https://www.porscheregister.com/MC73-075#details

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    https://www.9tro.com/(X(1)S(um30zgvp...#lg=1&slide=10

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    Same car...same license plate. Another Kit fitted later? Or different cars and same license plate?
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    I do not know for certain about the #37 car in 1973 with the plates WZ-JW 1driven by Walter and Leir HOWEVER the photo of the car with those plates in the 1970 Monte (car 118) driven by Walter and rack CANNOT be 911 030 0001 as in that year it was the Waldegaard werks car #6
    That car (0001) is / or at least was owned by Feustel as shown in the article in the link you gave to 9tro.com and at least at that stage has the plates S T 5704 back on it

    I always have believed that after being used by the factory (as a recce car and possibly a test car after the 1970 Monte Carlo) it was sold and ended up in the UK initially registered as 251LP at the Porsche dealership at Denham and then as PMO220 for John Sprinzel in the RAC Welsh rally of 1972 - his last rally where he retired the car (and possibly others earlier). At that stage it still was Tangerine as used by the Werks team

    Therefore I dont think it was the orange car shown as #75 in 1973 (D ED 71) OR WZ-JW 1 but without knowing the identity of those cars I cannot be certain
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