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    1968 911L? Help me with this VIN 11835367

    It this 1968 911 an "L" model? VIN 11835367

    I am getting conflicting information and want to clear it up once and for all.

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    Red Book has VIN 11835367 as a Karmann coupe manufactured between 8.67 and 7.68.

    The "L" model VIN range is as follows:

    911L Coupe (ROW) 11810001-11810720
    911L Coupe (US) 11805001-118055449
    911L Targa (ROW) 11860001-11860307
    911L Targa (US) 11855001-11865134
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    #11835367 is a ROW Normal 11835001-11835742

    So it is a Euro version, which makes it a bit special. Its also very appealing to the Europeans for re-import because the tax has has already been paid.
    Last edited by super9064; 07-04-2012 at 04:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by super9064 View Post
    #11835367 is a ROW Normal 11835001-11835742

    So it is a Euro version, which makes it a bit special. Its also very appealing to the Europeans for re-import because the tax has has already been paid.
    In which country does this tax rule apply because that could be very interesting if true.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by 304678 View Post
    In which country does this tax rule apply because that could be very interesting if true.

    Richard
    First...Let be be clear I'm no expert on the European tax code. A while back I read that since the sales tax (VAT) had been paid once, they would not be charged again.
    Items for export are not subject to the VAT. I recently purchased a European car, and that came up in the conversation. Which country, I would guess all the EU countries.
    I did hear recently that they have reduced the import duties on old cars, they had raised them very high at the first of the year to generate more income. The result was a drop off in collections because, fewer cars were then imported.
    Rob Abbott

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    Quote Originally Posted by super9064 View Post
    First...Let be be clear I'm no expert on the European tax code. A while back I read that since the sales tax (VAT) had been paid once, they would not be charged again.
    Items for export are not subject to the VAT. I recently purchased a European car, and that came up in the conversation. Which country, I would guess all the EU countries.
    I did hear recently that they have reduced the import duties on old cars, they had raised them very high at the first of the year to generate more income. The result was a drop off in collections because, fewer cars were then imported.
    I have imported cars - as a hobby - into Europe since '89 and all above (w/ exception of raising the tax) is all 'new' to me. I have acquaintances who are shipping agents both in CA and Europe and contacted them after your post. It's CORRECT that from July 1st 2012 the tax on classic cars over 30 years old have been lowered from 19% to 6%. What makes it even better is that normally spoken it would have been raised to 21% on October 1st due to general sales tax rise from 19 to 21%. The reason for this tax lowering is not because of lesser imports but due to government negotiations. Classic cars (over 30 years) are considered to be "art". The previous "temporary" government had raised the tax on Cultural and Art from 6 to 19% on January 1st 2011 (almost overnight and many car importers got "caught" due to that raise). Since the NL has currently a multiple party negotiations one of the things they had to cancel was the higher tax on Art and Culture .. Classic cars are benefiting from that move. This is fresh and this information is not yet to be found on the Dutch customs website and for unknown reasons did I miss the email that one of the agents had send me about it two weeks ago (Thanks Rob for bringing it up).

    One of the results now is that you can import a car through R'dam (6%) again and take it to any other Euro Country w/o paying any more sales tax.

    BTW for the NL the rumor is that they are currently looking into paying annual possession taxes on vintage cars that are held as investment (when you have a collection). What is holding them is that for instance a collection of paintings are harder to find and therefore to tax and that is an inconsistency in that approach.

    Just my $.02

    Richard
    Last edited by preS; 07-05-2012 at 10:30 PM. Reason: updated after the release of new information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srogebry View Post
    It this 1968 911 an "L" model? VIN 11835367

    I am getting conflicting information and want to clear it up once and for all.
    I sent you a PM.
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