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    Thumbs up FS: A La Carte Original Tools

    ** Quantities Updated - 1/30 **

    The quantities showing are what are still available.

    I've been accumulating tools for many years and I've picked up the pace lately in an endeavor to assemble complete kits. I'm changing course. I've decided to offer the tools individually to give folks a chance to fill in their tool kits. Here's some of what I have available at this time with descriptions and pricing. Please note that the descriptions are what I believe to be correct, but there are differences of opinions about these tools at times. The information I have compiled is from authoritative sources and many years of involvement with these cars.

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    Here's the list:


    Screwdrivers

    10,000 volt
    Originals identified by the shaft inside the handle. These are correct for LWB, perhaps some SWB, not sure when the change occurred.
    (2) Red handle flat blade - $325 ea. - ONE SOLD
    (1) Red handle Phillips - $325 ea. - ONE SOLD

    Klein
    Originals identified same as 10,000 volt. These are correct for SWB
    (0) Red handle Phillips - $350 - SOLD
    (0) Red handle flat blade - repro - $190 - SOLD


    Generator Wrenches
    911 generator wrenches are marked P208. The ones correct for our cars have short prongs and were the same for SWB and LWB. They were replaced later by wrenches with longer prongs and some have been ground down to look more like valuable longhood wrenches. Original 356/912 generator wrenches can be identified by their thickness as they are much thicker than ones produced later.
    (1) 911 - $85 ea. - TWO SOLD
    (3) 356/912 - $55 ea.


    Spark Plug Wrenches
    This is one of the most vague areas for me. The SWB spark plug wrench is well known and very rare (none listed here). It has a hex top and no thumb screw. At some point, perhaps late in SWB, a new spark plug wrench was used. It can be identified by the flat thumb screw on top and it's marked with Klein 21. It was later replaced by a wrench with a kind of tapered thumb screw top. The 356/912 spark plug wrench was long and accompanied with a chromed Tommy bar.
    (0) LWB 911 - $125 ea. -THREE SOLD
    (3) 356/912 - $85 ea.


    19x22mm Box Wrenches
    An easy one. These are marked "Chrom-Vanadium" and were the same for SWB and LWB.
    (0) LWB 911 - $105 ea. - ALL SOLD


    Messkos
    Messko's were included in SWB tool kits and included grey vinyl pouches as opposed to the leather pouches used earlier with 356's. The very early ones were very dark maroon, almost black, and had a dual scale of 0-50 and 0-3.5. Slightly later the color became a bit lighter shade of maroon, still with the dual scale. Later Messko's can be identified by a kind of mottled lighter maroon color. Messko's were not included in the LWB kit but I don't know exactly when they were discontinued. Messkos for the later cars were offered as an accessory in the Goody Case in the dealer showroom. There were two single scales offered, 0-3.5 and 0-50.0 where appropriate.
    (0) Dark maroon dual scale - $250 - SOLD
    (0) Bit lighter maroon dual scale - $225 - SOLD
    (0) Bit lighter single 0-3.5 scale - $195 - SOLD
    (2) Grey vinyl pouches (great repros from Carl at Orange Bar) - $35 ea. - FOUR SOLD


    Pudenz Fuse Packs
    Same for SWB and LWB. About the only way I know to tell the difference between the original ones and the excellent ones produced by Carl at Orange Bar is that the old ones are yellowish and brittle.
    (0) Original - $65 ea. - ALL SOLD
    (4) Reproduction - $25 ea.


    Lug Wrenches
    SWB lug wrenches had a curved tip. At some point there was a transition made to a tapered tip which is correct for most LWB's. 19mm is stamped on the socket.
    (2) Curved - $95 ea. - SOLD
    (0) Tapered - $85 ea. - ALL SOLD


    Pliers
    These are the hardest for me to figure out. SWB pliers had a definitive shape and no manufacturer markings on them. The cutting edge is raised. These are rare. LWB pliers are similar to 356 pliers, except the 911 ones have a chromed cutting edge (356's have a satin finish on the cutting edge). LWB '72 forward are identified with "Hepewe" raised letters.
    (0) SWB - verified - $285 - SOLD
    (0) LWB - $95 - SOLD
    (0) Hapewe LWB - $85 ea. - SOLD


    Wrenches
    There's a big variety of wrenches. Early SWB used Drop Forged Steel with the "large font" similar to the font found on 356C wrenches. They came in sizes 8x9, 10x11, 12x13, 14x15 and 17x19. Late in SWB production a switch was made to the smaller font DFS wrenches with the same set of five. And the late LWB kits used Selected Steel and Selected Special Steel, again in the same sizes.

    Drop Forged Steel Large Font
    Correct for early SWB.
    (0) 8x9 - $90 - SOLD
    (0) 10x11 - $90 - SOLD
    (0) 12x13 - $90 - SOLD


    Drop Forged Steel Small Font
    Correct for LWB, possibly late SWB
    (0) 8x9 - $75 - SOLD
    (1) 10x11 - $75 ea. - TWO SOLD
    (1) 12x13 - $75 ea. - ONE SOLD
    (3) 14x15 - $75 ea. - ONE SOLD


    Selected Steel
    Correct for later LWB
    (1)8x9 - $65 ea. - ONE SOLD
    (1) 12x13 - $65 ea. - ONE SOLD
    (4) 14x15 - $65 ea.
    (3) 17x19 - $65 ea.


    Selected Special Steel
    Correct for later LWB
    (1) 8x9 - $65 ea.
    (1) 10x11 - $65 ea.
    (3) 12x13 - $65 ea.
    (1) 17x19 - $65 ea.


    Fan Belts
    I have the Porsche Phoenix 9.5x 7.10 belts.
    (0) Dated September 1969 - $80 -SOLD
    (0) Dated June 1972 - $80 - SOLD
    (0) Dated December 1968 - $80 - SOLD


    Tool Bags
    SWB kits used several different tool bags. There were textured ones, ribbed ones, and the ultra-rare '68 elephant hide. LWB kits used basketweave bags until 73.5 when there was a short change to a tie bag with the flap followed quickly by the same type of bag with snaps.
    (0) SWB Textured - $100-$150 depending on condition - ALL PENDING
    (0) SWB Ribbed - $150 - SOLD
    (1) LWB Basketweave - $125 - TWO SOLD


    I think that's it for now. I'll be glad to send close-ups of individual tools, but it will be first come, first served based on commitment to buy. Thanks for looking - I hope that this is somewhat informative (experts encouraged to provide input).

    JohnA
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    Can I claim the dark Messko, a pouch, and the red fuse pack?

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    John

    I would like
    Pliers with the raised cutting edge, best pair please,
    17/19 DFS wrench
    19/22 Double Ring box wrench, best one please
    Spark plug tool with the flat knurled top rather than tapered
    10000 volt red handle flat blade screwdriver, best one please
    Light messko at $195 and a grey repro cover

    Please send total cost including shipping to UK

    Thanks

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    Sent you a pm John.

    Thanks,

    Mark
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    PM sent on Chrom Vanadium.

    Thank you,

    David

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    Still working on the listing. Thanks for the interest - I'll go by time-stamps and try to keep everything fair because I know some of these tools are highly sought after.

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    John, I need a LWB Lug nut wrench, LWB Fuse pack original, LWB 72 Pliers, LWB 19x22 box wrench, LWB Spark plug wrecnch and Generator wrench.
    Last edited by Longballa; 01-26-2013 at 10:21 AM.
    72S, 72T now ST

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    I also need a complete set of wrenches that would be correct for a early very early 72 tool kit. Basically I have the two screw drivers and need everything else. A pouch for it also if you have one.
    Last edited by Longballa; 01-26-2013 at 09:49 AM.
    72S, 72T now ST

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    Hi John,

    I would like the following

    Phillips 10000 volt screwdriver
    Messko dual scale maroon
    Pliers for a 1969 kit

    Regards!

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    I will also take the 1969 fan belt

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