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    For Canada I have these VW & Porsche dealers:
    999- Lansdowne Volkswagen Ltd Ottawa, ON
    999- Trois-Rivieres Volkswagen Ltee Trois-Rivieres, QC
    999-3000 Volkswagen Canada Ltd. 1920 Eglinton Ave. E. Scarborough, ON
    999-3001 Volkswagen Yonge Ltd Toronto, ON
    999-3008 H J Pfaff Motors Ltd Newmarket, ON
    999-3058 Kingston Volkswagen Ltd Kingston, ON
    999-3073 Heimrath Porsche Service Ltd Scarborough, ON
    999-3107 Peterborough Volkswagen Ltd Peterborough, ON
    999-3115 Midtown Motors (Simcoe) Ltd. Simcoe, ON
    999-3117 New Sudbury Volkswagen Ltd Sudbury, ON
    999-3170 Windsor Gateway Motors Ltd Windsor, ON
    999-3201 Noble's Ltd Moncton, NB
    999-3220 Volkswagen London Motors Ltd London, ON
    999-3257 Nethercott-Lee Volkswagen Ltd Hamilton, ON
    999-3261 Centre Volkswagen Ltd Hamilton, ON
    999-3265 Brantford Fine Cars Brantford, ON
    999-3417 Clarkedale Motors Ltd Vancouver, BC
    999-3426 Speedway Motors Ltd Victoria, BC
    999-3439 Volkswagen Pacific Sales & Service Ltd Burnaby, BC
    999-3448 Capilano Motor Car Co Ltd North Vancouver, BC
    999-3503 F. Pados Volkswagen Ltd Calgary, AB
    999-3588 Volkswagen Northern (63) Ltd Edmonton, AB
    999-3605 Regina Volkswagen Ltd Regina, SK
    999-3636 Saskatoon Volkswagen Ltd Saskatoon, SK
    999-3704 Auto Haus Fort Garry Ltd Winnipeg, MB
    999-3706 Popular Auto Sales & Service Ltd Montreal, QC
    999-3709 Alexander Volkswagen Ltd Terrebonne, QC
    999-3744 Auto Hamer Inc Montreal, QC
    999-3774 Sherbrooke Automobile Inc Sherbrooke, QC
    999-3787 Jos. Lahoud Automobiles Ltee Quebec City, QC
    999-3849 Hillcrest Volkswagen Ltd Halifax, NS
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    Dealer References, North America, 1969

    Here are the reference codes that I have in my Aug '68 (MY 1969) PDL . . .

    422/013/1.....Volkswagen Pacific, Inc
    422/041/1.....Vasek Polak
    422/042/1.....Estes Zipper Motor Co
    422/106/1.....Allred Brothers, Inc (aka P+A)
    422/108/1.....Four J Motors
    422/109/1.....Aero Volkswagen, Inc (aka P+A)
    422/111/1.....Rickettes Motors
    422/112/1.....Universal Motor Cars
    422/114/1.....Europa Motor Car Co. Ltd
    422/116/1.....Trans Ocean Motor Co., Inc
    422/117/1.....Catron Motors, Inc
    422/119/1.....Economotors, Inc
    422/122/1.....San Diego Motor Imports, Inc
    422/123/1.....Century Motors Sales
    422/124/1.....Fred Lucksinger Motors, Inc (aka Jack Hathaway VW)
    422/124/1.....Fred Lucksinger Motors, Inc (aka Jack Hathaway VW)
    422/127/1.....Ralph Cutright Co.
    422/128/1.....Jack McAfee Motors, Inc
    422/129/1.....Klein-Foreman Motors
    422/130/1.....Masterson Motors, Inc (aka P+A)
    422/132/1.....Van Wyk's, Inc
    422/144/1.....Downtown L.A. Volkswagen, Inc
    422/146/1.....Chick Iverson, Inc
    422/147/1.....Kendon Volkswagen (aka VW)
    422/149/1.....Cotton Goff, Inc
    422/150/1.....Van Wyk's of Bakersfield, Inc
    422/152/1.....Truman Motors
    422/153/1.....Jack Van Wyk
    422/156/1.....Bob Bozzani Volkswagen, Inc (aka Bozzani P+A)
    422/158/1.....Ballard Motors
    422/160/1.....Bill Yates, Inc
    422/162/1.....Bob Smith (aka P+A)
    422/174/1.....Meltebeke Volkswagen
    422/177/1.....Circle Motors, Inc (aka P+A)
    422/180/1.....Ogner Volkswagen, Inc (aka P+A)
    422/181/1.....Competition Motors
    422/202/1.....Morgensen Motors
    422/213/1.....Scott van Wyk Motors
    422/300/1.....Sunland Motors, Inc
    423/022/1.....Pape-Cross Volkswagen, Inc
    423/023/1.....Stone's Volkswagen, Inc
    423/025/1.....Morse Motors
    423/027/1.....Sunset Volkswagen
    423/029/1.....Eyerly Volkswagen
    423/030/1.....Vollstedt Volkswagen
    423/033/1.....Riviera Motors, Inc
    423/036/1.....Merle Taylor Volkswagen
    423/102/1.....Vista Volkswagen, Inc (aka Dent)
    423/113/1.....Norm Bishop Volkswagen
    423/200/1.....Wilcox, Inc
    423/205/1.....Western Motors (aka W VW)
    423/206/1.....Glacier Motors, Inc
    423/211/1.....Maichel's Car Market, Inc (aka Duane Gleaves VW)
    423/300/1.....Gilbert & Siebel Auto Sales
    423/308/1.....Bright Volkswagen, Inc
    423/309/1.....Tom Carstens' Autohaus, Inc (aka P+A)
    423/312/1.....Lange Volkswagen, Inc
    423/319/1.....Metro Volkswagen, Inc
    423/320/1.....Freeway Volkswagen, Inc
    423/321/1.....Lew Florence Motors, Inc
    423/327/1.....Packwood Volkswagen, Inc
    423/400/1.....Nu-Kar Sales, Inc
    423/407/1.....A & B Auto Sales, Inc
    425/021/1.....Kuper Volkswagen, Inc (aka Hayes P+A)
    425/022/1.....University Volkswagen, Inc
    425/023/1.....Norman Scott, Inc (aka P+A)
    425/026/1.....Stewart's Imported Motors, Inc
    425/031/1.....George Grubbs Volkswagen, Inc
    425/034/1.....Economy Cars of Dallas, Inc
    425/035/1.....McKenzie Volkswagen, Inc
    425/036/1.....Montgomery Motors
    425/040/1.....Inter-Continental Motors Corp
    425/043/1.....Mel Croan Volkswagen, Inc
    425/053/1.....Jim Carr Motors
    425/054/1.....Dowell-Messer, Inc (aka Gene Messer)
    425/059/1.....Bob Miller Volkswagen, Inc
    425/104/1.....Phil Winslow Volkswagen, Inc
    425/105/1.....Vern Hagestad Motor Company
    425/109/1.....Jesse Boyce Motors
    425/200/1.....Import Volkswagen, Inc
    425/300/1.....Imported Motors, Inc (aka Gineris P+A)
    425/304/1.....George Kuper Volkswagen
    425/401/1.....Lyod Brown Volkswagen, Inc
    425/402/1.....Eckhard Motors, Inc (aka Eckhardt P+A?)
    425/404/1.....Scovil Motors, Inc
    426/010/1.....Berkey-Lee Garage, Inc
    426/011/1.....Oliver Imported Cars, Inc
    426/014/1.....Lee Bowman Motors, Inc
    426/014/1.....Dave Rasmussen VW
    426/015/1.....Daly City Volkswagen Co, Inc
    426/016/1.....Guy Gardner Volkswagen, Inc
    426/017/1.....Humphrey Motors, Inc
    426/018/1.....John Behel Motors, Inc
    426/020/1.....Deet Eichel Volkswagen, Inc
    426/021/1.....Wester Motors, Inc (aka P+A)
    426/022/1.....Ray Ely Motors, Inc
    426/023/1.....Johnson Pacific Co, Inc
    426/024/1.....Gus Mozart Volkswagen
    426/025/1.....Bingham Motors, Inc
    426/026/1.....W.B. Lasher Volkswagen
    426/027/1.....Niello Volkswagen (aka P+A)
    426/030/1.....Neufeld Motors, Inc (aka P+A)
    426/031/1.....Atlas Volkswagen
    426/032/1.....Anderson Motors
    426/033/1.....Leon C. Felton Co
    426/034/1.....Veale Volkswagen
    426/035/1.....Thornton Motors, Inc
    426/036/1.....Helm Motor Company
    426/039/1.....Redwood Motors, Inc
    426/043/1.....Stan Carlsen, Inc
    426/045/1.....Carl R. Carlsen, Inc
    426/052/1.....Ghent Volkswagen, Inc
    426/053/1.....McPeak Motor Company (aka P+A)
    426/055/1.....Pardee Volkswagen
    426/100/1.....Bill Stremmel Volkswagen (aka P+A)
    426/200/1.....L.H. Strong Motor Co
    426/202/1.....Roy Strong Motors
    911/101/1.....Bud Clark Inc.
    911/104/1.....Erhard Motor Sales
    911/105/1.....Phil Gordon's Volkswagen Inc
    911/203/1.....Kline Volkswagen, Inc (aka P+A)
    911/301/1.....Autohaus on Edens
    911/302/1.....South Import Motors, Inc
    911/303/1.....North Import Motors Inc
    911/304/1.....Loop Import Motors, Inc
    911/305/1.....Breen Volkswagen, Inc
    911/311/1.....H & H Continental Motors, Inc
    911/401/1.....Art Bunker Volkswagen, Inc (aka P+A)
    911/402/1.....Webster Auto Service, Inc
    911/501/1.....Stoddard Imported Cars, Inc
    911/502/1.....Jaguar-Cleveland Motors, Inc
    911/503/1.....Rubini Motors, Inc
    911/504/1.....Hassan Motors, Inc
    911/505/1.....Autohaus
    911/601/1.....Cedar Rapids Import Mtrs, Inc
    911/701/1.....Concours Motors, Inc
    911/702/1.....Delta Import Motors, Inc
    911/703/1.....Fred Howe Motors, Inc
    911/704/1.....Behm Motors, Inc
    911/707/1.....Import Motors of Racine
    911/709/1.....Nagle-Toulon, Inc
    911/801/1.....West Side Motors, Inc
    911/802/1.....Lake head (sic) Auto Imports, Inc
    911/803/1.....Countryside Motors, Inc
    911/902/2.....Novak Cadillac (aka P + A)
    915/100/1.....Hamac Corporation
    915/200/1.....Ellwood Motor Cars, Inc
    915/201/1.....Brumos Porsche Corp. (aka P+A)
    915/202/1.....Ross Lakeland Motors, Inc
    915/203/1.....Tropical Motors of Melbourne, Inc
    915/204/1.....Orange Motors of Miami, Inc
    915/205/1.....Orange Motors of Coral Gables, Inc (aka De Maria)
    915/206/1.....Linn Motors, Inc
    915/207/1.....University Volkswagen, Inc
    915/208/1.....Brumos Pompano, Inc
    915/209/1.....Cutler Motors, Inc
    915/210/1.....Homer F Herndon
    915/211/1.....Chez Boye'
    915/212/1.....German Motors, Inc
    915/300/1.....Bill Spreen, Inc
    915/301/1.....RBN of Atlanta, Inc
    915/302/1.....Bill Martin's Foreign Cars, Ltd
    915/303/1.....Carson-Schoenfeld, Inc
    915/304/1.....L.A. Smith Volkswagen, Inc (aka P+A Central)
    915/400/1.....Durham Motors, Inc
    915/500/1.....Carmichael-Dahlke, Inc
    915/501/1.....Glass Motor Company, Inc
    915/502/1.....Henderson Volkswagen, Inc
    915/503/1.....Cars, Inc
    915/504/1.....Harmon Motor Co
    915/505/1.....Piedmont Motor Sales, Inc
    915/600/1.....Bob Bywater Motors
    915/700/1.....Snider Motors II, Inc
    915/701/1.....Madison Smith Naturally, Inc
    917/002/1.....Pray Automobile Corporation
    917/003/1.....Wilton Imported Car Center Inc
    917/004/1.....Performance Cars Limited Inc
    917/005/1.....Ted Trudon Inc (aka P+A)
    917/050/1.....European Cars Inc
    917/075/1.....Manhattan Auto Inc
    917/101/1.....Atamian Motors, Inc (aka P+A)
    917/102/1.....Auto Engineering, Inc
    917/103/1.....Autohaus, Inc
    917/104/1.....Boston Foreign Cars, Inc
    917/105/1.....Foreign Motors, Inc
    917/106/1.....Foreign & Sports Car Center
    917/107/1.....Import Plaza, Inc
    917/108/1.....Trans-Atlantic Foreign Car Co
    917/109/1.....Walsh's Foreign Cars, Inc
    917/150/1.....Jim Adams, Inc
    917/151/1.....Imported Car Sales Co.
    917/152/1.....Morong Brothers, Inc
    917/175/1.....Riverview Motors, Inc
    917/176/1.....Seacoast Motors, Inc
    917/201/1.....Continental Motors, Inc
    917/202/1.....Picard Motor Sales (aka P+A)
    917/225/1.....Al Alden's Woodstock Road (aka P+A)
    917/226/1.....McNash Motors, Inc
    917/400/1.....Stuttgart Imported Corp
    917/401/1.....Forty West Volkswagen Inc
    917/402/1.....Manhattan Auto Inc (aka P+A)
    917/500/1.....Essex Sports Cars, Inc
    917/501/1.....Specialty Motors
    917/504/1.....Lawrence Motors, Inc
    917/505/1.....Siegfried Motors
    917/506/1.....Princetown Motors, Inc (aka Jeff Sullivan Motor Works)
    917/599/1.....Authorized Porsche Body Works
    917/601/1.....Competition Imports Inc
    917/602/1.....Porsche Cars of Manhattan
    917/603/1.....Bromley Auto sales
    917/604/1.....North Country Motors Ltd
    917/605/1.....Emmick Motor Company
    917/608/1.....Arcone sales & Service Inc
    917/609/1.....Foreign Cars of Rockland Inc
    917/610/1.....Jim Kelly's Inc (aka -P+A)
    917/611/1.....Oxford Motors Inc (aka Fearn P+A)
    917/612/1.....Academy Motors Inc
    917/614/1.....Auto Sport by Jiri
    917/615/1.....Precision Motors Inc
    917/616/1.....Breton Motors Inc
    917/617/1.....Manes Volkswagen Inc
    917/800/1.....Nick Ciliberti Motors, Inc
    917/801/1.....Continental Cars Inc
    917/802/1.....Holbert's Garages Inc
    917/803/1.....Moore Motors Inc (aka P+A)
    917/804/1.....H.A. Boyd
    917/805/1.....Cameron Auto Inc
    917/900/1.....Harper Motors Inc
    917/901/1.....Mooers Motor Car Company
    917/902/1.....Joe Heishman's Inc (aka P+A)
    917/904/1.....Manhattan Auto Inc
    999/001/1.....Volkswagen Yonge (1965) Ltd
    999/008/1.....H.F. Pfaff Motors Ltd
    999/073/2.....Heimrath Porsche Service Ltd
    999/135/1.....Eglinton-Caledonia Motors Ltd (aka VW)
    999/240/1.....Shane Distributors Ltd
    999/261/1.....Centre Volkswagen Limited
    999/417/1.....Clarkdale Motors Ltd
    999/426/1.....Speedway Motors Ltd
    999/503/1.....F. Pados VW Ltd
    999/588/1.....Volkswagen Northern (1963) Ltd
    999/600/1.....De Pape Volkswagen Ltd
    999/704/1.....Auto Haus Fort Garry, Ltd
    999/709/1.....Alexander Motors Ltd (aka VW)
    999/712/1.....Daigneault & Frere (1966) Inc
    999/744/1.....Auto-Hamer Inc and Hamer Service Ltd
    999/750/1.....Lahoud Automobiles Inc
    999/787/1.....Jos. Lahoud Automobiles Ltd

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    More Dealer References, North America, 1969 . . .

    The thing that stands out for me is how many Dealers have the same 3-digit prefix to these designations . . .

    . . . so --- I don't think that these are the same as Händler Nrs

    What would be interesting is to compare the Händler Nr on a vehicle's Kardex w/ the designation of the dealership that sold that vehicle?

    Anyone?

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    OK --- the designations that I put up seem to break down regionally, so --- still need to check this, but . . .

    . . . I believe that the 1st 3 digits identify the Distributor, so . . .

    These designations would not be the same as Händler Nrs

    Correction . . .
    Distributor Number = Händler Nrs

    See post #17
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    You are right Rick,
    The 422 prefix was Culver city. I remember our dealer number was 422-026. (Sierra P/A Riverside)I may be off, I'll look to make sure. They added a bunch of numbers when they started the P/A dealers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRanger View Post
    Here are the reference codes that I have in my Aug '68 (MY 1969) PDL . . .


    915/504/1.....Harmon Motor Co
    Handler on my kardex is 915, which according to the window sticker, was Volkswagen Southeastern Distributor, Inc in Jacksonville. Kardex shows Volkswagen of America.

    I am curious if this code was also used for Brumos, as switchover from PoA (Brumos) to VoA was right around my car's entry into U.S.

    I agree that the final two sets of numbers seem to corrrespond to a specific dealer
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    Händler Nrs, North America, MY1969

    Here're the Distributors listed in my MY1969 PDL. Their distributorships appear to be organized roughly geographically. I believe that these distributor's IDs will correspond to Händler Nrs on the Kardexes for vehicles that these distributors handled . . .

    US

    911/000/0
    Porsche of America, Corp
    Midwest Zone
    PO Box 197
    287 Northfield Road
    Northfield, IL 60093
    312.446.8890

    ..Michigan
    ..Indiana
    ..Illinois
    ..Missouri
    ..Ohio
    ..Iowa
    ..Wisconsin
    ..Minnesota
    ..Nebraska


    915/000/0
    Porsche Car Southeast, Inc
    481-4 Phillips Highway
    PO Box 10096
    Jacksonville, FL 32206
    904.359.6915

    ..Alabama
    ..Florida
    ..Georgia
    ..Louisiana
    ..North Carolina
    ..South Carolina
    ..Tennessee
    ..Mississippi

    425/000/0
    Porsche Cars Southwest, Inc
    Austin Highway at O'Connor Road
    San Antonio, TX 78206
    512.OL 5.4410

    ..Texas
    ..Colorado
    ..Kansas
    ..New Mexico
    ..Oklahoma
    ..Wyoming

    422/013/0
    Porsche Car Distributors, Inc
    11300 Playa Street
    Culver City, CA 90230
    213.870.3881

    ..California
    ..Arizona
    ..Nevada (Las Vegas)
    ..Hawaii

    426/000/0
    Porsche Car Pacific, Inc
    805 Burlway Road
    Burlingame, CA 4010
    415.DI 2.8181

    ..California (North)
    ..Nevada (Reno)
    ..Utah

    423/000/0
    Porsche Car Northwest, Inc
    2400S.E 5th Street
    Beaverton, OR 97005
    646.3111

    ..Oregon
    ..Idaho
    ..Montana
    ..Washington
    ..Alaska


    917/000/0
    Porsche of America, Corp
    107 Tryon Avenue West
    Teaneck, NJ 07666
    201.833.2600

    ..Connecticut
    ..Delaware
    ..District of Columbia
    ..Massachusetts
    ..Maine
    ..New Hampshire
    ..Rhode Island
    ..Vermont
    ..Maryland
    ..New Jersey
    ..New York
    ..Pennsylvania
    ..Virginia


    CANADA

    999/000/0
    Volkswagen Canada Ltd
    Golden Mile
    PO Box 1003
    Toronto 16
    757.3281
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    My 1971 T targa, which i acquired a year ago came with the owners manual in a red vinyl cover and the origonal Maintenance Record in a matching red vinly cover. the Maintenance Record has first owners name, address, vin and delivery date (with odo reading 32 miles) along with 6 service records. Maintenance was done at 589,6450, 14,752,19,328 and 24,953 miles at Triangle Porsche Audi, Durham N.C from dates Oct. 1971 to April 1973. each blue stamp in the book has 408/B03 which must be the dealer stamp. The last maintenance record is Aug. 1975, 33,808 miles and has the stamp for 21577 Roscoe Blvd, Canoga Park Calif. 91304 - but the name has been stamped over and can't be read. Dealer code is 422-A27. The maintenace book even has a red computer punch card to be given to dealer for the 600 mile service.
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    From page II of my MY1969 PDL . . .

    . . . The workshop number shown in front of each associated workshop has seven digits, and is based on the VW system:

    Digits 1 - 3 = Code number of main dealer or importer


    Digits 4 - 6 = Code number of dealer, authorized workshop or branch premises


    Digit 7 = Index number defining the authorized workshop in accordance with the following key:

    0 = Main Dealer or Importer
    1 = Dealer
    2 = Authorized workshop
    4 = Branch premises of main dealer
    8 = Main dealer organization not situated at main dealer’s head office . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    . . . I've got two cars ('67 & '68) that were sold by Vasek. Both cars' kardexes show VW Pacific, Culver City, CA in the "Handler" box . . .
    Looks like --- for US-delivered cars, anyway . . .

    Händler = 'distributor' . . . not dealer?

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