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    Best SWB headliner?

    Posted this once before over on Andrea's thread, but no answer. Who sells the nicest example of SWB square dot perforation headliner?
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    I read this thread, but unless I missed something, this did not answer as many questions as it created.
    Mark Erbesfield
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    1972 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 FST (Factory Soft Top)
    1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 “Patina Queen”
    1979 MB 450SL "Dad's old car"
    2019 Cayenne "Wife's car"

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    Mark, try any of these three:

    GAHH in California, they offer the square holed pattern perf, (note the hole is round - the pattern forms a square)
    31 Beige for the Ivory
    34 Gray for the period correct color for 1964, 1965, 1966 and, 1967 911 (up until 2 years ago this would be a custom item) it now appears to be a standard.

    Tony Garcia, Autobahn Interiors in San Diego
    as above or cross reference to Auto's International for material and color
    for years now Tony has been custom making the grey for the 1964 911's.

    Autos International
    Ph1-1 Ivory, with the small square hole pattern perf, This is listed as the 900 Series German
    911/912 Off White. it's the larger hole square pattern, Domestic Headlining, closer in color to the original 1964-1967 color.

    You can't go wrong as all of these are top tier quality suppliers and each has fitted cars that have been shown and garnered top awards.

    For 30 years the headliner of choice has been the Ivory ( because it was what was offered) the only way to get the light grey was to have it custom made using a Mercedes material. The main suppliers now offer the choice, Light Grey or Ivory. And, unless you place the two next to each other most would not recognize which was which, five years down the line unless you hold a sample next to it - it will be even harder to tell which color it is.

    It's just that when given a choice - and your holding a sample of what came from the factory 49 years ago it makes the selection very easy.
    Bob
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    Bob, thanks for that. After all that's been posted on this subject, your post above is the most succinct, clear and understandable explanation of SWB headliners I've ever seen.

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    Bob ought to know-- after each show he replaces the headliner because he cuts a hole through it for his spotlight. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobs 67S View Post
    Mark, try any of these three:

    GAHH in California, they offer the square holed pattern perf, (note the hole is round - the pattern forms a square)
    31 Beige for the Ivory
    34 Gray for the period correct color for 1964, 1965, 1966 and, 1967 911 (up until 2 years ago this would be a custom item) it now appears to be a standard.

    Tony Garcia, Autobahn Interiors in San Diego
    as above or cross reference to Auto's International for material and color
    for years now Tony has been custom making the grey for the 1964 911's.

    Autos International
    Ph1-1 Ivory, with the small square hole pattern perf, This is listed as the 900 Series German
    911/912 Off White. it's the larger hole square pattern, Domestic Headlining, closer in color to the original 1964-1967 color.

    You can't go wrong as all of these are top tier quality suppliers and each has fitted cars that have been shown and garnered top awards.

    For 30 years the headliner of choice has been the Ivory ( because it was what was offered) the only way to get the light grey was to have it custom made using a Mercedes material. The main suppliers now offer the choice, Light Grey or Ivory. And, unless you place the two next to each other most would not recognize which was which, five years down the line unless you hold a sample next to it - it will be even harder to tell which color it is.

    It's just that when given a choice - and your holding a sample of what came from the factory 49 years ago it makes the selection very easy.
    Yes Bob, thanks very much for this post and summation. It is nice to put a name to the face and to the car etc. We met at RRIV.
    Mark Erbesfield
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    1957 356A #58648
    1966 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45LV
    1982 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
    1977 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
    1972 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 FST (Factory Soft Top)
    1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 “Patina Queen”
    1979 MB 450SL "Dad's old car"
    2019 Cayenne "Wife's car"

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    Just to muddy it up... Wasn't the 68 year an odd-bod? I thought the 68 headliner was a once only textured vinyl with pressed welting?
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    I have an Oct. of 67, MY 68 normal that was original and it did not have the texrtured vinyl with pressed welting.

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    I have seen the 68 headliners refered to as Elephant hind, which I guess was intended to match other areas of similar print.
    Mark Erbesfield
    2018 911 Carrera T 7spd manual 😊
    1973 911S #9113301282
    1957 356A #58648
    1966 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45LV
    1982 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
    1977 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
    1972 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 FST (Factory Soft Top)
    1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 “Patina Queen”
    1979 MB 450SL "Dad's old car"
    2019 Cayenne "Wife's car"

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