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    Which car is the better car to keep? Need help & opinions

    I need some help!

    Currently I have 3 911T Targa's and I am thinking of selling one in order to purchase a coupe. The two that i am trying to choose between are a 1972 911T and a 1973 911T. Here are the details…

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    72 911T Targa
    Matching Engine number
    Transmission is not matching number but correct for the car per the COA.
    Currently White (should be Silver per COA)
    Black Leatherette (currently has incorrect seat covers)
    US Equipment
    Light Metal Wheels
    Raised Steering Wheel Hub
    Comfort Equipment
    Blaupunkt Radio Frankfurt US Band
    Air Conditioning
    Dunlop Tires

    This car is a good driver that needs a some TLC. Very little rust, solid floors, solid car. The car has Webers (needs MFI installed which I have in a box) needs a carb adjustment, bushings in the trans, brakes, along with some other simple corrections. If I kept the car i would invest $10K to $12K to do the above noted repairs, paint the car back to its original silver, clean up the interior by replacing the aftermarket seat covers with good original covers that i have, get the wheels refurbished, along with a few other items. I would complete a very good, driver quality, light restoration.

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    Early 1973 911T Targa
    Non matching number engine from a 72T.
    However i may have a lead on an unstamped case for this car. I also HAVE the original pistons, heads, and original MFI to the car
    Transmission number is not noted on the COA.
    Currently light yellow (should be signal yellow per COA)
    Black Leatherette
    US Equipment
    Option Group G03
    Forged Alloy Wheels
    Stabilizer Bars F/R
    Blaupunkt Radio
    Comfort Equipment

    This car is in better shape then the 72. No rust and a great interior that needs very very little. I would spend $5K to $7K to paint the car it's original color, signal yellow, tune up, and clean the car thoroughly. Much less invested for a car that has an "S" front bumper, great wheels with no rash, and good options. This too would be a very good, driver restoration. I like to drive my cars!

    So here are the questions in need of answers…

    If all things being equal, which year is more valuable? Is a 72 more valuable for being a one year body due to the oil tank door? Is an early 73 more valuable since it is the last year of the long hood cars?

    Since things are not equal…

    Is a matching number 1972 that needs more work more valuable then a non matching number early 1973 in better overall original condition considering the options each car has?

    Is a matching number 1972 silver car more valuable then a non matching number (or unstamped case) 1973 signal yellow car? Does color matter between these two?

    Alright guys…let the expert panel begin offering some wisdom. I need it as I am at a loss of what to do here…

    Thanks!

    Robert Liberty

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    Details on #3?
    Peter Kane

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    I have all three ditch the 72 Targa!!
    Tony Proasi

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    That's hard to evaluate without know knowing more about all 3 cars. Do you have any detailed pictures you would like to share?
    Feel free to email as well.
    Happy New Year!
    Regards
    Peter
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    Silver and Signal yellow are both great colors. It's hard to beat a 72 with numbers matching. It comes down to the body and paint work I would say.
    72S, 72T now ST

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    I vote for the nos. match 72 unless it is a basket case. Money spent on this car will always be returned faster than that of a none nos. match car. Now if we were talking about a hotrod coupe I might have a different opinion, but we are not.
    Mark Erbesfield
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    I would keep the matching number 72, you can not go wrong with silver, original motor and one off exterior oil fill car.
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    How many PM'ed offers have you had????
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    Funny 69Sman. I have not had any offers. #3 is a 1971 911T Targa. However even though that car is not a matching number car it is super clean and gold metallic. I just had that car painted with basf glasurit, the seats and interior are being completed by Tony @ Autobahn, and it should be ready to go other then maybe one day finding my original case. Here are some pics of the 1971 before paint and after. I am currently wet sanding the car now, undercoating it correctly, and getting it ready for carpet and reassembly.

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    As far as the 1972, here is a flickr link…The rust repair on the 1972 is slightly more then the 73 but not much different. They are both very good rust free cars. The 72 does need more interior work, the wheels refinished, & misc exterior trim since it was made into an RS replica back the 80s. Luckily I have must of the parts like the correct front bumper, side rocker trim, etc.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2397088...7635137487555/

    I will take pics of the 73. I don't have any good ones. Just me pulling it out of an old garage after sitting for years and a few afar i got her home.

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    Thanks for the opinions. Though silver is a great color I plan on hunting down a long hood silver coupe. I agree that a number matching car is probably a better car to keep. However it may also be a good car to sell as well as it should bring more $$ then a non number matching car which would help raise more $$ for the next purchase.

    I am also told that making the 73 a hotrod would be a good idea. Get the horses up with a 2.7 and have a really fun driver to put some miles on. Not a bad idea either.

    Still looking for more input. I really enjoy/appreciate it!

    Thanks!

    Robert Liberty

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