FS: @classicdriver.com - 1968 Porsche 911 TR Factory Car ex-Sonauto Le Mans

[67er911S]

dont had the time to see it in Detail, but for me, the big Price is for the history, history and again the history...

[stretch]

Headlight buckets were sprayed silver, Badly. Rubber dog bones on the front were not GHE. flea bay one's probably.
Only one seat installed. I had forgotten my camera so only took some poor quality phone pictures. But you get the idea.

[Milou]

I agree that 'history' is important and even crucial to justify a high price.

But if the car has been restored and restored again to the point that none of the parts or very few of them ever went to le Mans...than I fear the car is no longer a historical artefact..more of a recreation....When I see the vin door tag and the other details posted on automobilia.fr, I fear the soul of the car is long gone and it's history too.

[67er911S]

But you can do all the Big Events, le mans, Tour Auto, with this Car no Problem, that's why the Price is in this area.

[Milou]

It remains a very expensive ticket to attend these events...


I seriously think that if you offered half that amount to any 911 owner enrolled in the upcoming Le Mans Classic, at least one of them would sell you their car:

http://peterauto.peter.fr/files/pdf/...ry-list-n3.pdf

[911T1971]

Many (but not all) of the records (such as schlegelmilch photo site) I have seen so far suggest that the #44 car at Le Mans in 1968 was the other Sonauto car, 118 20 779, registered as 3652 VA 75 not #807. Of course all of the records are subject to errors, and even if the data was taken from original entry sheets the fact that Sonauto had 2 similar looking cars and the race was delayed that year may mean that the entry sheet showed one car and the other actually competed.

I know that #779 is in Belgium and still competes in some historic events. I thought the record ascribed to that car is 1968 LM car #44, 1969 LM car #40; 1969 TdF car #121 and 1970 TdF car #123.

If #807 really was the #44 car I want to correct my records, so it would be good to know one way or the other.

This is what i was told too. There have been two cars, one entry (in May), one raced (in September 68).
He said to me:
"1968 Le Mans racer #44 was NOT #807 but #779, which is today in Belgium.
Some infos at classicdriver.com sales site are/were wrong."

Glad you confirmed it, Hugh.
I dont know if the new owner, a "discerning collector", knows what he bought.
He now has #807, but #779 aka #44 actually raced 1968 at Le Mans...

This is maybe the reason they altered #807 and today installed a 906 engine, one seat etc.
The for-sale text was wrong, and/or they might knew that #807 did not race at LM, or they did not do their homework, or..

Edited:
BTW Saw today the ST "Chiquita III", its alive., but badly altered, needs a full resto.

[Milou]

Do you mean this one? it's an amazing car.....

[911T1971]

Thomas, yes, what I learned its "Chiquita III"(Monza, 1970 1000km Nurburgring GT79).
But your pic shows I or II, I think.

[HughH]

here you go 911 030 1108 Chiquita III (also raced at the Targa Florio and Le Mans in 1971)


GT79 at Nurburgring 1970 and and just for something different one of the earlier Chiquita's from 1968 (not sure if I or II)

[majordad]

Seems no 917 s entered ?