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    Werks 911 Rally cars 1965 - 1972

    A couple of weeks ago I asked here about the the source of the table below which shows in some detail a lot of information about works 911 rally cars, including chassis numbers up until 1972.

    I had a copy of the German version and not only did i get a quick response as to where it was sourced (Busing and Barth) but an English language one was also posted.

    The reason I was asking is that i have a lot of photos of werks rally cars over this period with details of drivers, events etc but only limited information tying those back to specific chassis identities. This table did the opposite: it had a lot of information on chassis numbers, engine numbers and car types but no cross link to what the car looked like, registration numbers, events it was in etc. I was interested in the table because if the source was reputable (and it is) i thought it might be possible to cross reference my photos and other information with the information in the table to create a more comprehensive database and possibly document a significant amount of the early history of these werks cars.

    i was aware from looking at the table that it had some errors in it that i could spot, possibly typos in some cases but misinformation in at least one. Also i am under no illusion that this was an easy task, or indeed achievable without detailed access to the factory records - and maybe not even then.

    However i have been always surprised at the depth of detailed knowledge on this board and thought that if I start it off, and then post what i have, the "power of the crowd" may create something that no-one could by themselves.

    I have had some success in putting the two sets of data together, but I have also made some assumptions in the information that i have put together. I have tried to show what are assumptions and what i believe to be fact. However I am under no illusions that if a table from Busing and Barth, who would have extensive werks access has errors this may well have them too.

    So I am putting the challenge out to see how far we can take this. i know there are some members of the board that do not like to share a lot of this data (presumably in the hope that it gives them an advantage in finding this type of car) but I would counter that the more information that is out there the more likely they will find out something new and the piece of information that they are holding may just unlock other significant facts helping them as well.

    So here is the start of this.

    The format for posting this is that I will try to stick to the werks cars listed in the table below in year order and match photos and registration and the first event they did. I have usually stopped at the first event, although i often have much more, as the objective is to tie a chassis (and maybe engine) number to an identity such as registration that can be used through time. Also the reason for using the first known event is that typically these werks cars did a couple of events, then were used as Recce or practice/backup cars for a couple more before being sold off to favored clients / private teams. Thus picking the first event gives the best opportunity to determine an identity.

    Source THE PORSCHE BOOK BARTH & BUSING (note there are some errors in this table)
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    1965 – for 1965 Monte (and later?) 911 2.0 “Monte”
    300055 S-UV 333 engine 900241 car #147 Linge / Falk 5th


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    1965 911 2.0 “Monte” for 1966 Monte and later
    3 cars
    303075 engine 903353 S WX 449
    303076 engine 903355 S WX 450
    303085 engine 903374 S WX 451

    Also one press car 302736 engine #902695 no photo known

    The Werks cars were all red (Rubinrot or Polorot?), and at the 1966 Monte were:

    S WX 449 Monte, Glass/Wutherich. #131
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    S WX 450 Hans Walter and Werner Lier 4th in GT #139

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    S WX 451 Schlesser and Buchet car #57
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