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    Final Assy 69 911 T restoration questions

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    I did not take the car a part. But getting close to finishing this one after 2 years. The forum has and early S forums have been great sources of info, the old posts are a lot of help. Thank You.

    I sort of inherited the project when a good friend passed and left it to his daughter. Anyway I am trying to complete the car the way he wanted to do it..or really close. Irish Green, 911T Optioned S Trim, Brakes, Sway Bars, Fog Lights, matching numbers Supertech 2.4+, Supertech Rebuilt 901 trans, Autobaugh interior kit and good support from them. The car is going to be very nice. But a lot more cost that I imagined. As you know at first you buy repo parts for the savings and toss many in a box as they are off a tad, then spend way too much for the OEMs that actually fit the first time.

    Anyway..back to the car ......This is the story I got. It was a 1 owner car 43k miles flight controller at the airport. that a tree branch fell on in Portland in the early 70's damaging the driver fender, door, decklid. A PCA member found the car stored for years 2009ish. The original owner bought it back from the insurance co and was going to make it an SCCA race car, but never got around to it. Just took the check and bought a newer 911. The PCA member bought it and stripped the car to the tub and mounted it on a nice DIY fabricated dolly. Did a nice job bagging the parts and making notes, impressive. My friend GSJohnson on this forum bought the car in 2014 from the PCA member Bill TES on this forum. The car was shipped to Cali from Portland and sat in my friends garage until he passed unexpectedly. He was working on another car first and had quite a few projects in various stages. I took over the project in 2017. And sent it out for paint for 6 months while I refreshed all the parts, paint, powder, plating, rebuilding, etc. I have a late model 911, but far from a early car resto expert. Ask me about Mustangs and I have done many concourse restos on over a dozen of them.

    Here are my current questions...

    - Anyone got a pic of the fuel door area where I can see how the cable stop mounts. My release latch is new and not bent in a U shape like a couple net pics I found. Cable was a mother to get in, by passing the antenna, etc. New Porsche fender vs the original.

    - I have two oil tanks that came with the car. One is the standard T tank with no level sensor. The other has the level sensor provision. The guy inherited the project from wanted to run "S" gauges and thus got a tank with a sensor provision. Is the wiring there to use the level sensor, even though it did not come with that feature ?.......if not, anyone know what is required ?

    - I also have Extra gauges, the 69 has the ones with the brackets on the back and nuts. The extra gauges have the fuel / oil level And Oil temp/pressure vs. the T standard gauges with the idiot lights. They do not have the studs, so they came from a 1970+car.

    Anyone know what is required to retrofit these two gauges in the the 69T wiring wise ?.

    And Will they wedge in like a 70 with the big gaskets or Do I need to fabricate a stud on the back for the bracket ? I can't get a set of calipers around them for a perfect measurement, but by ruler the are darn close.

    - Could also use a Glass installer contact in So. Cal ( Corona, Inland Empire, Orange Co area) that is familiar with early 911 glass installs. I don't do windows.

    Finally could use a contact with the same year car to help with a couple other questions as these are an odd year parts, fuel system and wiring wise.

    The engine is done and ready to go, but like I said I did not take the car apart, so the wiring harness is a bit if a mystery to me. It also has a Mark10 ignition box partially connected to the harness and dealer paperwork showing the Mark10 install. I hear Parts Klassik can retro their version of CDI into the MARK10 box. I guess for a period correct look?. The car as far as I can tell did not have CDI on the 2.0 webber T. It has the original Marelli distributor in good shape. While Supertech prefers the Bosch units, Henry thought it was in great shape to run.

    You can see some pics form over a year ago when the car was in the paint stages if you search my posts. I will try to get some new ones up soon. There is really too much money in this sentimental project now in just parts, my labor has been free. Everything is bought though, I think, guess that is never 100% true. With the engine/trans mods I am told it will be a super nice/quick car to drive. I had a 72 914-6, not bad, and a 76 911 worst car I ever had, never drove an earlier car. I do have a late model we enjoy a lot. My gut says the 69 T car will be for sale within in a year of completion. She can do better with some money and get herself a condo. Dad did not leave much but the project cars.

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    The Mark 10 unit will provide a powerful spark if it works, and they for the most part are tough and easily repairable, the main capacitor is the most common failure and can be replaced with a newer and more reliable capacitor. The same unit was sold under the Radio Shack and Heathkit brands in complete and kit form, finding replacements is not difficult, The wiring diagram is usually attached to the base plate of the MK10. Providing power to the red positive lead and negative to the unit ground should produce a audible whine or squeal, though younger or female ears can hear it better than those of us that have been around noisy engines and equipment can.Name:  instructions02.jpg
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    Wow, AKAMick that is quiet a find. Many thanks. Guess I will give it a try.

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    pics would be great!

    I am restoring two 911 T models.

    One car had the stock wiring harness in good condition.
    The other car got a new Kroon harness.
    LOOKING FOR 1967S TRANSMISSION #103586
    Looking For 1969T Engine #6195922
    Looking For 1969T Transmission #7194313

    Looking for 1969T Transmission #7195495
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    Regarding a glass installer. I have a good one for the 964 993 cars but not used him on an earlier car.
    Might consider giving the guys at autobahn interiors a call. I know they do it or have someone they use.

    Pics please!

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    The loom should include all the connections that you mentioned.

    Any good instrument shop can fit the studs required on the 69 and earlier gauges, and can match/calibrate your sender and gauge. Again the connectors should be in the instrument loom.
    Tony

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    I'm a few weeks from finishing a 5+ year stock resto of a '69T. It sounds like yours has had some mods, some known and perhaps some unknown. So, answering some of your questions reliably might be difficult, particularly regarding wiring, especially as the only available '69T wiring diagram is....um....vague (and perhaps underwent changes over the course of the MY). I wonder, what does "matching numbers Supertech 2.4+" mean? I was unaware that an original '69T mag 2.0 engine case could be modified to 2.4+ L. Good luck!

    Rich

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