Maybe the child whose parents bought her the junior might spring for a real one.
Maybe the child whose parents bought her the junior might spring for a real one.
That marquee looks very sparse!,not a great idea to have on the same weekend of salon preve.
Limited production predecessor to the RSR . . .
Artcurial Salon Rétromobile Auction, Paris, 03 February 2023
1970 Porsche 911 S/T Rally 2,3L, Lot 113
Sold for: NO SALE
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Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
Roock Sportsystem, Leverkusen, Germany
1973 Porsche 2.8L 911 Carrera RSR Coupé
VIN: -
Engine: -
Trans: -
Color: Tangerine/Black
Mileage: -
Price: "Price on Request"
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Dealer Description:
- Unique racing history
- Only 55 vehicles built
- Original state
Original Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 litre. One of only 55 vehicles built, stored from 1981-2007, the vehicle was always in France, only 3 previous owners since 1973, unique racing history 5 x 24h Le Mans 1973/74/75/76/77 – 3 x Tour Auto, restored about 15 years ago, further information on request.
Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
Cartique by Mechatronik, Pleidelsheim, Germany
1973 Porsche 2.8L 911 Carrera RSR
VIN: 9113600791
Engine: -
Trans: -
Color: Sea Blue/Black
Mileage: 00,972 km (indicated)
Price: €2,095,000 (+VAT)/~US$2,246,528
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Dealer Description:
- The only factory-delivered RSR in the color sea blue
- One of fewer than 55 2.8 RSR built
- Successful racing history including Le Mans
- 1st place (overall) Vosges race 1973
- 1st place (overall) 4h of Dijon 1973
- 1st place (overall) Ronde de la Baule 1974
- 10th (Group 4) Le Mans 1974
- Fully restored and ready to use
- Incl. extensive reports
- FIA certified
- German street legal
The Porsche 911 Carrera 2.8 RSR offered here was built in March 1973 as the 19th of only 55 vehicles by the Porsche racing department and delivered to its first owner, Mr. Dominique Thiry in Straßbourg, in April. The license plate was 6203QX67. Mr Thiry used the car extremely successfully in the 1973 season and was victorious in several races. In the spring and in wintry conditions on the "Circuit des Vosges", Thiry achieved overall victory with starting number 119. Another highlight of the 1973 season followed later in the year with the racing classic of the 4 Hours of Dijon. Chassis #791 was again driven by Dominque Thiry and Jacques Henry. Here, too, the car achieved an impressive overall victory. Four more races followed in 1973, in Monthléry, Remiremont, Turckheim and Urcy, which, however, could not be tied to the previous successes. In 1974, chassis #791 was sold to the Frenchman Claude Pigeon from Rennes. He uses the car twice during the season. At the "Ronde de la Baule" with starting number 1, Pigeon triumphed with first place. At the race in Languille, Pigeon starts again, but has to drop out due to a technical defect. In 1975, the meanwhile race-proven car changed hands again, but remained in France. Alain Leroux, the new owner, also has ambitious racing plans for chassis #791. On March 23, 1975, Leroux started with his second driver Joel Laplacette in the "2 heures de l'ACO" and achieved a respectable 4th place in group 4. This race should act as preparation for the highlight of every racing driver's career. Taking part in the legendary 24 Hours of Le Mans. On June 25, 1975, chassis #791 took part in the ultimate endurance race. In addition to Alain Leroux and Joel Laplacette, the former owner Claude Pigeon, who was asked to start because of his experience on the car, is named as a driver. After 24 hours, the RSR successfully crossed the finish line in Group 4 in 10th position. A respectable result considering the strong, factory-backed competition. In 1976, Alain Leroux sold chassis no. 791 to Mr. Pierre Renauld from Nancy / France, who also uses the car in numerous competitions, including the Tour de France. In the years that followed, the car was also used in numerous rallies. The car will be driven by the later European Rally Champion Yves Loubet, among others. In 1989 the car was sold again in Paris and subsequently extensively restored according to delivery specifications. The current owner will have an FIA passport issued for the car in April 2020, which means that the car can now be registered for all historic motorsport events. This fully operational 911 Carrera 2.8 RSR offers collectors with the highest demands the rare opportunity to be able to successfully use a unique Porsche with a successful racing past in the future. In 1989 the car was sold again in Paris and subsequently extensively restored according to delivery specifications. The current owner will have an FIA passport issued for the car in April 2020, which means that the car can now be registered for all historic motorsport events. This fully operational 911 Carrera 2.8 RSR offers collectors with the highest demands the rare opportunity to be able to successfully use a unique Porsche with a successful racing past in the future. In 1989 the car was sold again in Paris and subsequently extensively restored according to delivery specifications. The current owner will have an FIA passport issued for the car in April 2020, which means that the car can now be registered for all historic motorsport events. This fully operational 911 Carrera 2.8 RSR offers collectors with the highest demands the rare opportunity to be able to successfully use a unique Porsche with a successful racing past in the future.
Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
https://drouot.com/en/l/21704986-por...era-28l-rsr-ye
An exceptional rarity, deafening performances Car of the Défense Mondiale team driven by Jacques Alméras in 1973 Glorious track record including the best result of a 2.8L RSR at the Tour Auto Well known and documented history for this authentic car High quality full restoration carried out less than 200 kilometers ago Iconic "Mary Stuart" configuration, identical to the factory cars Extensive history file with numerous archive photos. - EN: CHASSIS # 9113601033 PRODUCTION N° 1036160 ENGINE N° AT911/74-6930155 COMPETITION CAR WITHOUT A CIRCULATION TITLE An exceptional rarity, deafening performances Car from the Défense Mondiale racing stable, driven by Jacques Alméras in 1973 Glorious track record including the best result achieved by a 2.8L RSR at the Tour Auto Well-known and documented history for this authentic specimen Comprehensive high-quality restoration completed less than 200 kilometers ago Iconic "Mary Stuart" configuration, identical to that of factory cars Extensive historical file with numerous periode photos
LOOKING FOR:
ENGINE Nos: 4080191, 911669
GEARBOX Nos: 9282004, 131410, 115639
1967 Porsche 911 PART Trans Am Rally Kit #308107
1968 Porsche 911S Sebring GT class winner #11800224
1971 Porsche 911S Targa Conda Green
1973 Porsche 2.8 RSR 4xTarga Florio, GT class winner #9113600894
alarson11,
I made a post about this little auction with #1033, here it is :
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ypes-for-sale)
The Six Auction - Vente Aux Encheres Speciale Agrasc, Balsan Enchères, Cherre, France, June 29, 2023Originally Posted by alarson11
1973 Porsche 2.8L 911 Carrera RSR
VIN: 9113601033
Engine: 6930155
Trans: -
Color: White/Black
Mileage:
Auction Estimate: €1,000,000 - €2,000,000
Sold for: €1,017,092 / ~US$1,116,215
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Auction Description:
The Porsche 911 Carrera 2.8L RSR offered for sale as part of the exceptional auction collection is precisely one of these
specimens and, arguably, one of the most representative of this model of competition 911. The car, chassis number
9113601033, was imported new to France. Ordered through the French importer Sonauto in April 1973 for the «Défense
Mondiale» team, it came painted in Grand Prix White with red stripes. It is believed to be the second out of the four
2.8L RSRs imported to France and the 35th produced overall. It was ordered with a special gearbox (for mountain use) to
be made available to driver Jacques Alméras, whose specialty was hill climb racing. He immediately clinched the title of
French Hill Climb Champion in the Group 4 category with this car.
Shortly thereafter, he participated, along with his teammate Serge Mas, under the number 107, in the 1973 Tour de France,
competing in the Group 5 category, where they finished 2nd overall. It was for this race, following the homologation of the new
crankcase that enabled the assembly of the 3.0L RSR engines, and in order to take advantage of the displacement limit in this
class (Group 5 set at 3.0L), the engine block was reportedly sent back to the factory for overboring, and it was registered as a
911/74 (AT) type corresponding to a 3.0L RSR version with 335 horsepower, retaining its original number.
It was also during this time, given that the Group 5 category was more permissive than the previous Group 4 category in which
this 2.8L RSR had been competing, that it underwent aesthetic modifications inspired by the factory RSR from the 1973
24 Hours of Le Mans. It was slightly widened and the spoiler was modified, but most notably, it was equipped with a rear wing
extending over the rear fenders, in addition to the ducktail spoiler on the rear deck, forming an encompassing rear wing,
affectionately nicknamed «Mary Stuart» due to its resemblance to the collar seen in portraits of the Queen of Scots.
Combined with its highly distinctive livery, this aerodynamic appendage, akin to a «factory» upgrade.
In 1974, the 911 2.8L RSR #1033 then passed into the hands of Jean Benaba, a driver from the south of France
who competed in hill climb races. In order to adapt the car for this purpose, he transformed it back (at least
partially) into a Group 4 car, fitting the rear section with a «whale tail» spoiler borrowed from the 3.0L RSR.
Later, in 1975, Jean-François Mas took over this 911 2.8L RSR and entered it in the French Rally Championship,
this time in the Group 3 category. Not only did he win the championship in that category that season, but he
also achieved a remarkable feat with his co-driver Tilbert (aka Christian Gilbert) under number 161, securing
a 2nd place overall in the Tour de France and winning their Group 3 class. It’s noteworthy that this 2nd place
in the 1975 Tour de France Automobile was accomplished by #1033, which was no longer a powerful Group
5 car as it was in 1973, but a Group 3 with a basic RS engine.
Up until then, this 911 2.8L RSR had continued to compete under the banner of Défense Mondiale and was
prepared by Alméras Frères. However, in 1976, it was sold to Armand Lemay, an architect and gentleman
driver from the north of France, marking a change in its trajectory. Lemay entered the car in numerous
regional rallies and modified it according to the evolving regulations of the FIA, ensuring it remained eligible
to compete in various categories, until it became outdated. After that, he kept it as a cherished trophy for
several years, preserving its former racing glory. In 1987, he sold it to a Parisien enthusiast, who, devoted to
the car with its impressive bodywork and amazing track record, preserved it in its current condition for over
25 years. It was then acquired by a well-known collector from Monaco about a decade ago, who set out to
restore its former splendor.As the owner of prestigious Porsches such as the 917 and several 911 RSR models,
the new owner commissioned a complete restoration of the 911 2.8L RSR #1033 to the highest standards
of excellence, returning it to its most iconic configuration: the «Mary Stuart» Group 5 livery of the Défense
Mondiale racing team from the 1973 Tour Auto.
It is in this enhanced yet historically significant form, that it is presented today. It is in excellent condition,
having covered less than 200 Km since the restoration was completed. In 2017, after the restoration works
were finished, it obtained a FIVA identity card and a request for Historic Technical Passport (PTH) was made,
allowing the car to compete in historic racing events. It made its debut at the Espiritu de Montjuic in 2018 as part of
the Peter Auto Series, with none other than Jacques Almeras behind the wheel - nearly 45 years after his participation in
the 1973 Tour Auto with the car in its original configuration, including its corresponding race number. Some time later,
the current owner acquired it along with other competition cars from the famous Monaco-based collector who led the
restoration, but has barely used it.
Given its well-documented and referenced history, this 911 Carrera 2.8L RSR, now in exceptional condition due to
the high-level restoration performed and notably retaining its original engine (serial number 6930155) bored out to a
«prototype» 3.0L displacement, as well as its special gearbox (unreadable serial number 7931040), presents a high degree
of authenticity. Sold fully documented with a file that includes a copy of the authentication certificate issued by Porsche
in 2014, its FIVA card, and the 2017 PTH application, along with various archival documents. It also includes a significant
expertise report and historical documentation by JP Cornu from 2019. Numerous photographs of the car in action,
tracing its extensive racing career and forming an evocative historical dossier, complete the collection. Therefore, this 911
Carrera 2.8L RSR #1033 is a remarkable car from every perspective: its configuration, performance, and achievements.
There is no doubt that the RSR version embodies a significant chapter in the history of competition. More exclusive than
a Carrera RS, it is an authentic race car that has graced numerous circuits. Equipped with the most advanced mechanical
refinements of its time, it annihilated the competition and became the world champion in the Grand Touring category
in 1973. Already impeccably restored, this car will bring joy to its future owner, who will have the pleasure of entering
it in the most prestigious historic competitions. Its exceptional rarity, coupled with its thunderous performance,
will undoubtedly set it apart from its competitors.
Last edited by DOUGS73E; 07-08-2023 at 04:29 PM. Reason: Added sold for price.
Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
I don’t know the details so can only take the article on face value but back in 2019 this newspaper article suggested there was a legal dispute looming:
https://rennlist.com/articles/two-id...-off-in-court/
I don’t have access to papers posted on the link below. Seems like some updates this month? Might this information be related to the legal case previously reported in the NY newspaper article ?
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...it_v_Schachter
Last edited by 911MRP; 05-31-2023 at 06:09 AM.
Steve
I am not going to create an account to read the PDF's either
However I am certain it is related to that case and it seems to me, from reading what i can see there, that Jacob Shalit (who has the car he says came ex Mexico and was the one referenced in Starkey's book as "the car" as it has been known and around for much longer - I saw it in person in 2007) was looking to bring the case forward but that was rejected by the Judge.
But is does not look to me (in the absence of seeing those documents) that it is the end of the case of which car (if either) is the "correct" car.
With all the apparently fraudulent cars around now courtesy of groups such as the one on trial in Germany and others, it would be good to see some judicial ruling on this matter - however whether a court can get it "right" remains to be seen and honestly I am not hopeful
Hugh Hodges
73 911E
Melbourne Australia
Foundation Member #005
Australian TYP901 Register Inc.
Early S Registry #776
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