Reference: Tool Rolls & Contents

[niushork]

I saw one of my posts was referenced. I have owned many other 1973.5 tool kits after that post. What I have found out that is, yes there are 2 types of handles that will accept a 1973.5 switch blade.

Both will have LARGE font stamps on them, not small stamps like the 89-97 handles. Also the blade will not fit, but if you are buying just the handle online you cannot tell of course. So if it is small font stamping, not correct for sure.

Also found out that besides the string bags, some mid 1973 tool kits came with button bags. The ones I have owned contained June 1973 stamped Phoenix belts in them. String bags I had came with as early as Oct/Nov1972 belts (cant remember the exact month), the latest belts I have seen were March 1973.

A car's manufacture date is not exactly correlated with the belt date, but gives you an idea when the tool kit was put together. Also whoever put these tool kits together didn't just discard tools/bags etc. just because a new model was out, so we all have seen some overlap of tools/bags for early cars.

Very interesting info. What is the correct bag for a 1973 car that was delivered in October 72 (probably built May 72)? Is it the string bag? Thanks

[BOYER73S]

Very interesting info. What is the correct bag for a 1973 car that was delivered in October 72 (probably built May 72)? Is it the string bag? Thanks

probably, early RS cars seem to have the tie bag but if not then the clasp style bag, no way of knowing for sure.

[McOtto]

Does anyone know why access to this website is now password protected? https://www.originalporschetools.com

[72targa]

I still see that it is password protected. Here is a flavor of it:

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/pors...ence-site.html

Hopefully its builder, Ben (twinturbo959), can help us learn how to reenter it.

[911MRP]

Accessories supplied with car at new not just toolkit are interesting. Unlike tool bag and contents warning triangles wasn’t part in the list is things to be given to the customer but still worth knowing about.
What is known on the warning triangles used as the type and brand accessory in each era. I’ll post picture when I get the opportunity

Jacks were in the checklist list of things be included. Does anyone have the screw jack part number shown in the factory 914 maroon hard copy parts ring binder from around 1972 when it superseded the prior lever jack?
On another thread it was posted as the following PET image
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That’s the same part (number) as my 911 maroon ring binder paper parts book supplement edition ii page is dated 9/72 (September1972)

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PET is useful for quick check but prefer to cross reference contemporary factory original paper copies from ring binder ideally with any supplement page date shown if the system to refresh content was the same in 914 as 911 binders at the time of the change to the screw mechanism

This is the jack from the print date 9/72 TES owners manual that came with my calendar 1972 built Carrera RS likely original to the car because with the rare English language RS blue supplement alongside many other original papers.

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By comparison this is the image in an orphan 914 owners manual I have print date vii/72 ( July 1972)
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Closeup taken today of the distinctive lighter coloured yellow dot with the up down lettering
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Presumably of the type used in the Porsche black and white handbooks (print dates July and September) but jacks like this must have physically existed at least several months earlier due to traditional publishing process lead-times as needed to have these handbooks available on the multinational distributor to coincide with model year launch and production cycle.


My personal experience in plastic moulding is limited just a four week stint during school holidays days at the factory of my friend’s father in the seventies to earn some holiday money. But I wonder if the ubiquitous green dot superseded the very uncommon yellow dot that were evidently with Porsche in calendar 1972. The black script in example is raised to the touch but I don’t know if black wording was printed on the yellow as a second sage of making the cap or maybe produced with two colours directly — my vast experience in the plastics shop doesn’t certainly qualify me to know …ha ha. Perhaps it was easier cheaper and with lower number of quality rejects to switch to make these caps in a simple single self colour (typically green) when ramping to the volumes required for 914 and 911 combined demand than continue with a more “fiddly” two-colour (yellow with small wording in black) earlier cap along with a perhaps simplifying the early more ergonomic lollipop knuckle friendly angled handle design to flatter the teardrop shape(s) seen later too? If so that might explain why these were short lived and now rarely seen in production cars, their use swamped bur the countless ubiquitous green dot (and black dot) similar screw design jacks used in the VW-Porsche and Porsche +Audi distribution networks at that time? The green dot cap continued in various form of jack from model 73 well it’s the eighties and (some but not all* variants of ) green dot are the jack type I’d typically expect to see in model 73 . Having said that ans with caveat that literature kit always representative of production equipment there is little doubt the distinctive yellow dot (with a bright red band of optic around cap) existed from Panama spring early summer of calendar 1972 and while the images in the literature aren’t always representative of production and things change but can we dismiss with any certainty that some ( perhaps not many) of these distinctive versions as shown in the illustrations didn’t find their way into some newly-delivered 911 that year?

Steve

*that a cheaply made loose jack accessory goes awol or got thrown away is hardly surprising, these days we certainly see plenty of examples of screw-type jacks in early 911 sometimes claimed to be original green dot survivor from 73 that are obviously not date authentic equipment when car was new. The process back in the day to place the jack in front compartment at new would have introduced variability at the best of times but the “tells” I’ve seen to disprove the claim are sometimes glaring eg stickers on jacks with usage instructions showing impact bumper and various other detailed giveaways

[9 E Lovin]

How do we get a password to the Originalporschetools website? Anyone?

[911MRP]

While the green dot screw jack is of course the most commonly seen variant in calendar 73 the model year 73 911 cars (with evolving shapes of handles lollipop to teardrops) it seems in 73 TES drivers manual the frugal folks didn’t bother to change the image showing the yellow dot even in later print editions for example this from 5/73 (May 1973) :
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By x /73 ( October 1974) si for model year 74 914 we see the image of the very familiar screw jack with green dot with the teardrop handle as often seen is model year 73 911 — these are consistent with the comkknkybseens jack on 911 that year:
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The two images above not from my collection these were found on the www (Bowlsby)

We know in this case they didn’t recycle the prior year image because this is the image from my 911T drivers manual showing the very different leverer type jack that was superseded by the screw type jack
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I get the often repeated point the literature is not always representative of final production and the caveat “It has always been Porsche's policy to continuously make technical improvements: therefore, the right is reserved to make changes at any time during the model year without notice.”
Nevertheless hard copy owner / driver manuals contain the (only) period images from a dated factory source where there are reasonably clear photos showing examples of the accessory jack / model / year for 911 and 914.


Steve

[twinturbo959]

Does anyone know why access to this website is now password protected? https://www.originalporschetools.com

Here's the original post/thread for the site. Possibly worth reading the entire thread?
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...Reference-Site

I still see that it is password protected. Here is a flavor of it:

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/pors...ence-site.html

Hopefully its builder, Ben (twinturbo959), can help us learn how to reenter it.

How do we get a password to the Originalporschetools website? Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to address why the tool website has been down. Over the years, I’ve worked hard to make this the most complete reference for Porsche tools from 1949 to 1998 and beyond, covering some Supercars as well. My vision was to continue improving the site, and with the help of user donations, I had hoped to hire a web designer or content manager to make necessary updates.

However, in the last four years, no donations have been received. Maintaining and updating the site has therefore fallen entirely on me, and due to time constraints, I have had to temporarily pause the website while I reassess its structure and work on reducing errors and outdated content.

As I am only one person, I cannot manage all aspects of the site and keep it fully up to date on my own. In the meantime, I’m happy to answer simple questions. If you have inquiries about your personal tool kit, please send me a photo of the tools laid out on your tool bag, which will help us both save time.

Looking ahead, I plan to relaunch the website with a new subscription model for in-depth information, while still offering free access to basic details. Donations will be optional but appreciated to help sustain the site.

Thank you for your understanding, and I look forward to reopening soon.

Best regards, Benjamin

[Chris Pomares]

I have a perfect (68L?) Elephant hide tool roll that I had the inner vinyl replaced. I matched the color and the pattern so close I really can't see a difference. I’m hoping someone with a 68 (L?) with Elephant Skin interior ends up with that tool roll. That’s really where it belongs. I found an awesome piece of leather to make some really nice tool rolls. Maybe 6. I have 2 now just to see if they are as nice as I hoped for. They’re even better than my expectations. I’ll keep 2. One for my car and one for the POLO car I’m building for a friend. They are beautiful! I’ll list the other ones when I figure out what I have in them. I would guess these are for someone with a really nice car and have taken a few liberties beyond pure stock. Here are a few pictures. First the Elephant hide then the ones I'm producing.

Sorry I thought this was in General info. I'm trying to figure out what to price the Elephant tool roll for. I went to a leather shop and they said it would be hard to even find a hide that nice of that size these days.
Can you move this to general Info please if this is inappropriate here.

[Chris Pomares]

I was sent this message by a fellow member so I guess I'll start here for the roll itself.

Elephant Hide Tool Roll
Chris I was fortunate once to buy an Elephant Hide Tool Roll for $550. After I sold my 68 911S I met a young man new to Porsche who had just acquired a 68 911L with Elephant Hide interior so I sold it to him for what I paid for it although it was probably worth more. Yours is outstanding so I would hold out for the right car/buyer and probably wouldn't sell it for less than $1500 possibly more.
Joe