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Thread: What Floats You Longhood Boat?

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    What Floats You Longhood Boat?

    From time to time we get newbies that aren't sure of what direction to take their newly aquired cars. It got me to thinking that before you start work on your car that you need to make choices about where you are headed in order to achieve a desired outcome. For example, a guy on Pelican has a 65' SWB that has had an 80's makeover in white with blacked out trim and a 74' up style rear bumper. What to do? I think most would say take it back to stock but is that always wise? He could end up taking it back to stock and end up with a museum piece that he no longers enjoy so the question has to be asked. What kind of owner you are? What floats your boat?

    What are the percentages of owners on this board? If you could own only one longhood car what would it be? I know we love them all but if it could be only one car what would it be? What level of modification would you go to? #1 is zero tolerance to mods to #6 the sky is the limit.


    1. Classic SWB and LWB museum pieces that only get driven to maintain them. Show pieces you see at events. (These are Mr. Peabodys' way back machines that throw you back to the day they rolled off the showroom floor.)

    2. Early SWB and LWB numbers matching cars that appear almost completely stock but have a few modern unviewable upgrades to improve maintenance and the driving experience. (These are usually weekend fun cars that allow you to relax and re-live the days when life was simpler.)

    3. Early LWB cars that appear stock on the outside but are heavily performance modified underneath. These make use of modern improvements applied to them in the form of suspension mods, flares, chairs and even 3.2/3.6 motor transplants. These are often daily drivers. (Anyone can buy a BMW zzzzzZ4 or Nissan Z whatever but an Early 911 longhood wins with a cool factor hands down.)

    4. Early SWB and LWB hotrod "R Gruppe" cars that are only limited by looking period correct. They look like period racers. Replica cars of the 911R, 911ST and Carrera RS/RSR also fit in this category. Some are daily drivers some are event cars. (Owners previously owned soapbox racers, Schwinn Stingrays or BMX bikes, depending on their age group, and have blatantly refused to ever grow up.)

    5. Early SWB and LWB track cars. No BS. (Nuff said)

    6. "Gruppe B" bastard cars that have no rules. They are there solely for the purpose of the owners creative vision for good or bad depending on ones' veiwpoint. This is a category that seems to be frowned upon for the most part here on the Early S Board but consider that the first Porsche, number one, was actually a Gruppe B car. It was Ferdinands' vision. (Village idiot or Village visionary, you make the call.)


    I think I fall mainly into category #3. I love the classic stock look but for me to really enjoy driving my car I prefer modern performance upgrades. Where do you?
    Bobby
    71' Olive 2.2E Targa / Early S #491

    I've always considered the glass to be half full...that is until I reached middle age and realized that it is actually half empty.

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    Somewhere in between 1 and 2
    Henry
    1965 356 SC
    1968 911S
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    1979 930

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    Jared Rundell - Registered User JCR's Avatar
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    Great poll! I also had a hard time deciding between 1 and 2... realistically #2, but we all go absolutely Ga-Ga when we see a #1.
    Especially when it's for sale!
    Jared
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    Door #5 for me...

    If I had any room in my life for a 2nd 911, it would be of the #3 variety (for the most part...I'd be happy with a #2 car as well... )

    great poll...
    cheers
    Thom

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    I know it's tough to choose. I drool over the time capsule cars. Every event I go to I walk away wanting a restored 356 bad but then I think about how uptight I would be driving such a collectable car on the street and I come to my senses.

    I could be very happy with category #2 a matching number stock car for my only car. Preferably a 72'S or a 2.2S Coupe. Even with that I would be a little uptight about taking it out on the street though. So #3 it is for me at this point in time. My 73' Irish Green 3.2 Targa (yikes did he say Targa?)
    Bobby
    71' Olive 2.2E Targa / Early S #491

    I've always considered the glass to be half full...that is until I reached middle age and realized that it is actually half empty.

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    #3. I love a pure #1/#2 early car, but there's just something about 3.0L+ MFI power in an early car...and corresponding larger brakes, more taut suspension, etc.

    I still have the original engine, transmission, suspension and brakes in storage, so I can make a #2 car out of it if I ever want to. The body hasn't been touched...the original appearance is just so classic.
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    Here ya go...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3390462&rd=1,1

    For those who want to cover all their bases. Looks interesting!

    Daron

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    I voted for #4.

    However, I think 3 and 4 are essentially the same thing. I don't really get the distinction other than the SWB part of #4; but there's no reason a SWB car can't be used daily...or why an RGruppe car can't do daily duties, either.

    That being said, I'm not really sure where I would even classify my car. Perhaps, Bobby, you could use some existing examples to help clarify the poll (even though I'm the only one who seems to need clarification )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr9146
    I voted for #4.

    However, I think 3 and 4 are essentially the same thing. I don't really get the distinction
    Marco, thanks for saying that, I didn't either.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr9146
    I voted for #4.

    However, I think 3 and 4 are essentially the same thing. I don't really get the distinction other than the SWB part of #4; but there's no reason a SWB car can't be used daily...or why an RGruppe car can't do daily duties, either.

    That being said, I'm not really sure where I would even classify my car. Perhaps, Bobby, you could use some existing examples to help clarify the poll (even though I'm the only one who seems to need clarification )
    #3 should look basically stock in appearance. They have stock trim, lights and mirrors etc. Performance wise they are modded.

    #4 cars look more race ready. Aside from that they aren't much different.

    Maybe it was wrong for me to split them but I've always thought of R Gruppe cars as being modified to look more like period racers. I know that R Gruppe refers to the people and not the cars so I probably should have just kept the name out of it.

    Bob Tiltons car would be a #4 type car.



    My car would be a #3 type car.



    I tried to keep it looking stock as much as possible but it does have RS flares and 16" Fuchs which were needed for performance gains. Under the surface though the car has been heavily modified. (22/28 TBs, Wevo SPS, Carrera brakes, Elephant bushings, Rennshifter, and a 3.2 Carrera motor.)
    Bobby
    71' Olive 2.2E Targa / Early S #491

    I've always considered the glass to be half full...that is until I reached middle age and realized that it is actually half empty.

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