Rarity/desireable

[Original Poster]

Original post........

[fg1227]

your own desire;I have owned every porsche car from a 550-917-962;because I HAD AN ITCH TO OWN THEM;all the things you mention are relative ,but the greatest is your own desire! there's no accounting for human emotion

[sithot]

I've owned a lot of motorcycles that I didn't need but I wanted because they "spoke to me". Some are here, most are gone. Each was something to be experienced and did require ownership to do so.
Like Frank's cars I have fond recollections of them and can look back and enjoy the memories even if they aren't in the garage.

Emotions like the thrill of the hunt and bringing "the beast" home are always strong. Even as I write this I await another traveler that will soon be in the garage. For how long I don't know but I am looking forward to being the host.

Best,

Tom

[BBausser]

Don't forget the comfort factor. Owning a car for 20 years, knowing it's creaks and groans, fitting into the driving position like a pair of fine leather shoes feels on your feet or your favorite pair of bluejeans, understanding it's limitations and taking it to its max every chance you get.

[fryardds]

Another important factor is styling/beauty of a car. This ties in with what Frank mentioned, the subjective emotion when we see a 'beautiful' car is a powerfull force.

[sithot]

Don't forget the comfort factor. Owning a car for 20 years, knowing it's creaks and groans, fitting into the driving position like a pair of fine leather shoes feels on your feet or your favorite pair of bluejeans, understanding it's limitations and taking it to its max every chance you get.

The devil you know vs. the devil you don't.

That's why I have a buy-back on my bikes when I sell them.

Best,

Tom

[Chuck Miller]

This is a GREAT thread.......

[boba]

We are talking about the "want factor", we all know it is there and yet we still want some rational to validate or quantify "value".

When you buy a grocery getter - daily driver value is based on the utility of the purchase.

With these cars, motorcylces or art it is all about emotion, talk of investment is just BS. That is not to say you will not be able to get a decent return, but in honesty there are better ways to invest.

It is all about "want" in the end. And how much want.

I know I "want".

[Mr9146]

The difference between what is "rare" and what is "valuable" comes down to what can be measured and what cannot.

A car is "rare" if there aren't that many examples of it available. Now, whether that's due to low production volumes, because they were all raced and subsequently wrecked, or because they were all sent to Mars it doesn't really matter. The fact is that there are few around and, thus, they are rare. HOWEVER, that doesn't necessarily give them value (here'e where the older crowd inserts VW kit cars).

A measurement of value comes from the gut. It's completely arbitrary and often exists without reason (see Barrett-Jackson and shiny American cars). HOWEVER, therein lies the rub. A lot of people derive their ideas of value from watching the market - what that means is that if someone else wants it they want it, too. People have no imagination and it's easier to want something that someone else already wants because there's a specific "value" that's already been attached the vehicle. I'd venture to say that Porsches are a bit different in that respect, but the marque is not immune to the value-seeking copycats and bandwagoners.

I could go on but from here it just gets convoluted and confusing...

[MarcS]

I just bought an R32 VW and while it's nice and all for a daily driver I've still rather be driving my '69T. I can't explain it but it just fits me better than the newer cars. It is about emotion/passion. 250 hp in a pig or 110 in a light weight...the answer is easy for me. One is for the daily grind and one is for FUN.

Of course getting it back on the road would be nice.