Ultimate ST thread

[911T1971]

1970 Le Mans, 7th place (first of GT 2500 Class)
Ecurie Luxembourg, LUX,
Porsche 911 S(/T?)
by Erwin Kremer, D and Nicolas Koob, LUX
Color: signalorange

Its right at my mechanic's shop being restored.

today

Le Mans

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I thought it was about time i contributed to this great thread.
This collection of, 911S, ST photo's are the best i have ever seen. Enjoy.

http://forums.motorlegend.com/vb/showthread.php?t=44946

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[911T1971]

911 230 1417
According to a new german article, 1417 was a 2.5 S with option M 491 in Light yellow.

Built June 1972, Swiss delievered to private racer Heinz Grieder, raced at DRM in Hockenheim until 1975.
Raced with front wheels 7x15" and rear 8x15" , always on BBS Motorsport magnesium wheels.
Later converted by Kremer to 2.8RSR engine spec and sprayed to a grey color.

The car today, recently restored by Raceline-Feustel.
(sorry, iphone pics the light yellow color is too dark)









NOW the interesting part:
A while ago I posted infos of a yellow/grey S/T derivate.
My swiss mechanic told me always it was a "real S/T Kremer" he once owned.
I now strongly beleive this is the same car and indeed a "S/T".
Same spoiler, same details, same color scheme and the car was indeed swiss registered car.

[911T1971]

Raj,
they write that 1417 was built with engine typ 901/17.
They also write while 1417 had option M491 (as later designated for RSR), the option package for this 2.5S was not the same as for RSR.
I'm not a specialist, just documenting what is now presented about this newly restored car, 1 months ago in a German magazine and now in a Swiss one.

[911T1971]

Sorry Raj, its not 901/17 but 901/70 !
typing mistake with consenquences...

They write that 1417 had an option "M491" with oil cooler for engine mounted behind front spoiler and oil cooler for transmission mounted on right rear wing, race cage, Heinzmann fire extinctor, bucket race seats with Autoflug harness, 10k tacho, 110l tank, front anti-skid bar, Bosch Injection, flares 5cm front/rear, several reinforcements on 911S chassis, engine.
Since 1417 was for a privateer racer, your infos about individual customs to individual specs are shurely right.



Again, i'm not a specialist on this topic.
This infos are coming from a french speaking Swiss magazine published march/2013, I will look if I can also find more in the german publication published in jan/2013.

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Kremer ST under restoration http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

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Karim:

I think this is the same car. You can see air scoops under the front bumper, and I always thought they must be for brake cooling, but it is possible they are for a front mounted oil cooler. I have not heard of putting a cooler in the passenger rear, maybe that is a misinterpretation of language. We do know that sometime during 72 front mounted coolers were offered by the factory to replace the driver side cooler which was put into service for transmission cooling as Raj mentions. These front coolers were often somewhat crudely mounted with extensions in the bumper. Maybe Kremer had a more hidden way of mounting the cooler behind and under that bumper. It would have required some duct work in the front section behind the nose, but it could have been done with the cooling air exiting under the car.

[911T1971]

Raj, Rick and others, will check in the german magazine about 901/70, location of oil cooler of trans. and other details of 1417.

The samba pic below is amazing, because the rear shows shurely my mechanic's shop in Aarau, Switzerland.
He does not own this pic anymore, I assume he gave it to the german owner of 1417 when he sold it to him in 1983.

BTW one can see the 72 oil filler flap indicating an transmission oil cooler could have mounted on rear right fender, as stated in the article, plus front oil cooler behind front spoiler, supplied by two red ducts, mounted below.

here, same spot.

[Anatol]

Small world: I know the mechanic who used to own that yellow ST. He sold me NOS sun visors for my 68S. And I know the mechanic who restored the ST: Karlheinz Feustel, who did a lot of work on my 68S.

So I guess there is some spirit of ST in my 68S... ;-)