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    Knock-back mechanism on brake piston

    Hi All

    Possibly a question best directed at Eric Shea or other brake/racing people... I threw my SWB brake pistons into my vibratory polisher for a clean up pending caliper restoration and have found that the walnut has gotten into the knock-back mechanism of the pistons. The rear 38mm are easy as the knock-back mech comes out with a circlip; but the 48mm pistons don't seem to have the same arrangement and I can't quite figure out how to remove. Anyone deleted the knock-back mech on their M calipers?

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    Okay, a lot of reading on PMB's website indicates that the knock back mechs in these pistons are not removable and mine are all now full of walnut grit
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    You just need to find out what dissolves tree bark!! Mild acid of some kind?
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    You just need to find out what dissolves tree bark!! Mild acid of some kind?
    Alcohol is the solvent for natural resins.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Miller View Post
    Alcohol is the solvent for natural resins.........
    Well I've been working my way through a bottle of Ardbeg single malt... So far I haven't melted!

    I'll give mentholated spirits a shot on the pistons, otherwise I might have to order a set of new ones from Eric (sans knock-back).
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    OOOOPS! our mistake John,,,,thought you were needing solvent for the pistons
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    Sorry for the delayed reply. Chucks note sent me on a college flash-back... alcohol and resins

    I generally don't encourage people to "remove" the pins or knockbacks. A mild acid (wait... what? more college flash-backs) should do the trick and make sure everything is clean then, a solid spray with a brake cleaner straw nozzle and you should be back up and running. Porsche/ATE generally didn't have knockbacks in two situations:

    1. Race cars (some 908 calipers, 917 calipers etc.) and,
    2. Later cars with booster circuits.

    That said, there are a "LOT" of guys out there with A-Calipers on the front of their early 911's (Mr. Miller). It simply requires a stab or two to make it right. The best thing for a early non-booster car and no knockback mechanisms would be a residual pressure valve in line. This would keep 2-3 PSI on the line and maintain proper pedal feel.

    Back to the OP? - I'd be inclined to have at it with a high pressure air nozzle and a can of brake cleaner. If it's really packed in, try the mild acid (not the brown acid).
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    Thanks Eric.

    Fortunately I pretty much did as you suggested and blew everything our with compressed air and brake cleaner. The brakes went back together well and appear to be functioning
    John Forcier
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