Special early 1964 features on 1965 cars

[964RS UK]

301021 has the following:-

Front luggage compartment hooks

Internal lights with Hella AND Made in Germany

Hole in rear deck lid lock

5 pleat front seats with the ealy 'T9' perforation pattern in central flutes.

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Txs Jason, see email sent.
Cheers, J

[Frank Beck]

Went over this thread a couple of times and maybe I missed it?

Rocker decos?

Also maybe more conversation regarding brake calipers. Post #72 showing the tall "ribbed" versions on 300359. Is this what is meant in the table by "early shaped calipers"?

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Txs Frank,
I needed this. Lets see what this thread is worth and kill this subject forever.
Here are 2 different calipers.
Who has which caliper? Pls send us yr data, which one is the early one?
Cheers, Jacques

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Frank, what are rocker decos?
J

[moito]

Frank, what are rocker decos?
J

those aluminum profils with rubber insert mounted below the doors

[NeunElf]

The Car and Driver magazine dated November 1963 included a drawing of the forthcoming 901's rear disc brake:



It looks like the one on the right. The rear brakes on my car look like this to (to the best of my memory--I'm not planning to pull a steel wheel for a good look).

[Frank Beck]

300705 look just like 300359.
Ribbed versions (Right side photo and C & D drawing).

[NeunElf]

Went over this thread a couple of times and maybe I missed it?

Sometime in '65 they seem to have added rocker decos?

Seems like a fairly significant change.


Also maybe more conversation regarding brake calipers. Post #72 showing the tall "ribbed" versions on 300359. Is this what is meant in the table by "early shaped calipers"?

I don't have any information on chassis numbers but my brochure collection includes a brochure printed in October 1964 which shows rocker decos:



I can't help noticing that the luggage displayed in the corner photo is identical to the luggage in the October 1963 Frankfurt Auto Show brochure (which shows a car without rocker deco):



The latest source for a car without rocker decos is the April 1965 Car & Driver which tested the 901/911.



Of course the April issue probably showed up in mailboxes in February or earlier and they must have written the article months before that. The test car has neither 901 nor 911 scripts on the rear deck or glovebox door and it has 356 window cranks so I suspect it was a really early car.

[911T1971]

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Above pics on post 279 show two different cars, however both never seen with trim on rockers.
Only 1963 printed 901 brochure(s) show cars withouth trim.Once the 911 literature was printed by early 1964 they all have trim. I think they added rockers and overriders by drawing them to it, as it was common with many literature items.

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Car one is Prototyp chassis 13321, built 1962, plate S CU 902, white color. Destroyed in early 1965.
This is the car shown in the 1963 901 brochure as well on the covers of 1963' Panorama and 1964' Road an Track.
Btw the lady with hat is the secretary of Huschke von Hanstein.

S CU 902 in 1963 901 brochure & 1963' Panorama


S Cu 902 in 1964' Road and Track



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Car two with plate S TC 1 was Prototyp chassis 13325, yellow color, built at Karmann 1963. The car was the show car of Frankfurt 1963 and on many other car show 63/64. Seen in many pics also with plate "Typ 901". Destroyed Dec 1965.
The photos above show S TC 1 at a test by German Journalist Seiffert for Motor Revue magazine, the driver shown is Peter Falk. Photos by Julius Weitmann. This photos have been published in Germany late 1964 and were taken from another test published in April 1964 by AMS magazine.

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Here is S TC 1, April 1964. AMS magazine.







Here is S TC 1, Fall 1964. Motor Revue.






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BTW, for AMS magazine, Seiffert tested the 911 again in January 23rd 1965, this time with a 911 serial model.
He wrote the 911 still handled badly….Afterwards the factory's sales manager Mr. Glockenbach wrote on a factory info that this is very bad publicity for the new car... and the factory needs urgently a solution: this is the reason that after chassis 301340, all 911 received weights in bumber overriders.