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    Quote Originally Posted by NeunElf View Post
    Don't leave us hanging. What colors are 6420 & 6421?
    Newer posts show what was learned on the 356 Registry site; that is me contributing there also.
    I believe that the 6220 & 6420 are the same color, and were used for the Police vehicles.
    The 6421 I came across in some information from the Reutter body book for the 911. I was able to search for the VIN and found it mentioned by someone. The car had belonged to a friend many years ago, and was scrapped long ago. It may be possible to chase that down a bit further. Perhaps I will get the Kardex to see if it lists a color in any way. My factory contact had no information on it.
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    Where is period proof that in 1964 and 1965 (up to May 1965), Standard Colors differed than for the 1966 Model Years ?
    And that colors for the 356C were carried over into 901/911 models ?
    The 911 Workshop Manual, in the Body section under Paintwork, lists the 64XX color codes.

    "Example: synthetic resin paint 6402"
    "The two figures 64 denote the 1964 color range."
    "The figures 02 denote ruby red in this color range."

    My manual is a later edition, and includes color codes up through 1971, so you might see how color codes are listed in earlier or original editions.

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    John B. Thx. But how were those infos transmitted to new 911 clients wanting to buy a 64 or 65 built car.?
    They just said, "sorry Sir we dont print specific color charts for our new car, you need to figure out your choice from our outgoing model, the 356C'. ?

    I have about all Color charts ever printed for the 911 models ever including a few Upholstery folders shown to prospective clients.
    But unless they showed the clients a Workshop manual (...), clients never received a Color Chart printed for any 65 built 911? And if yes, why?
    They printed several 901 and 911 brochures in 1964/65, accessory lists and pricelists but no specific Color Chart ?

    We have a pricelist confirming the colors but how any client got those infos and could make a choice ?
    Its imo an interesting topic because it would be a anormally in Porsche history to not provide such an item when introducing a new model.
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    Karim,

    That is a good question, but different from your original question (which I quoted) or your question at the top of this page.
    In my manual, the only difference I see between the 356C and early 911 colors is the name applied to 6403, "Sky Blue" versus "Enamel Blue".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1970rsr View Post
    I have one to add to your list. An early 65 car. Pre 1000 vin in a 1 off Paint to Sample color.
    Color code in the Door. 20104 Kardex says. "Orange". It is lighter than Tangerine. Car is 100% original and in its original paint. Thanks. Tate
    Any chance to see a picture of this car. My 65/66 911 was originally painted 5711 (orange) and would be nice to see the difference between 5711 and your 20104.

    Thanks,
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    Once a color was used in a particular model year it was some times chosen for a special paint on a later year car. I have seen original T5B cars in A colors. Even some Cs There were two orange colors that predate the C 64/65 era, terra cotta and orange from the special order T2 offering. Maybe one of those is the orange. I think DER WHITES website has the T2 color cards.
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    Paint to sample #20104. Orange. In Original paint
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    1965 911 Factory Paint to Sample Orange
    1967 911S Bahama Yellow
    1968 911 S Blood Orange
    1971 911S Gold Metallic Peter Gregg
    1974 Carrera RS Blue Metallic
    1990 RUF RCT Estonia's car

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    1965 911 Factory Paint to Sample Orange
    1967 911S Bahama Yellow
    1968 911 S Blood Orange
    1971 911S Gold Metallic Peter Gregg
    1974 Carrera RS Blue Metallic
    1990 RUF RCT Estonia's car

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    If it's any help, here's an orange 1959 356A T2 photographed outside Willhoit's open house:

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    The 356A color code would have been 5711.
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    So I am very certain the car is not the 5711; I do have a couple of early 911 in 5711, and this was a known color, so the badge & kardex should state 5711 if that was what it was. Besides, it looks a lot like tangerine in that photo on my monitor. I would really love to see the paint badge.
    It appears that the 30083x series may have all been special option colors:
    300830 6206
    300835 6206
    300838 20104
    300839 70187
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