Show Me Your Vintage P Dealer Plate Frames.

[rasher]

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Heres the pics of mine real deal frames note maker mark on rear RWB and co ,and the inside btm corners are rounded not square as rick mentioned in previous posts

The ebay scuffed ones are being sold by same seller at the rate of maybe one or two a month for at least the last couple of years , all the same frames scuffed up. They could be repops imho ,maybe he can clear this up? ,

Can you post up pics of yours livefromny?

Id be interested in seeing your trash finds ...

[LiveFromNY]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Here are just some of my VP frames:



Two of the frames pictured are the frames I mentioned earlier as having been salvaged personally by me at the Hermosa Beach dealership while a third is from my 1986 targa with 15k original miles that was purchased new from VP. These black frames are the most recognized and most valuable of the VP frames. Yours are both earlier frames. The Manhattan Beach frame is from the VP location that preceded the Hermosa Beach location. Your other frame is, in my estimation, the second rarest of the known VP frame varieties - second only to the b/w frame with the single Porsche crest as seen in this photo:



Surprisingly, the rarer frames trade at a discount to the more common (but still hard to find) double crest b/w frames. My guess is that people just prefer the look of the double crest black frames as these routinely bring $200 in only fair condition and I've seen NOS ones sell for as much as $500.

As for plateframeking on ebay, your wholly incorrect about them. I've been dealing with them for many years. They make their living digging out these vintage frames wherever they may be and they've been doing it long before there would have been any money in reproducing these things.

If you're looking for a VP frame, the repops out there are easy to spot - they identify the dealership as being in Redondo Beach and, while VP did have an overflow lot in Redondo for a short while, they never advertised this location on their plate frames.

[lopena]

Right now there's yet another Vasek Polak Manhattan Beach frame on ebay (item 261525564117). Obviously a reproduction because the seller keeps using the same photo of the item (although he uses different seller names). Nevertheless, a nice finishing touch to a 356 or old 911. No harm in repops as long as they are labeled as such. Heck, half the classic cars in the US wouldn't exist if it weren't for reproduction parts.

[rasher]

Cheers for posting the pics, above , what era are you saying your plate frames are ?

[LiveFromNY]

Cheers for posting the pics, above , what era are you saying your plate frames are ?

I am not "saying" they're from any era. Just like I'm not "saying" they're authentic but rather stating a fact that is well-known by numerous Porsche owners and easily verifiable with the slightest research. Similar designs were also used for VP BMW and Volkswagen (and I have those frames too)

I don't have an exact date that VP began using this design but I can verify that the b/w frames were used for many, many years and were in use when the dealership closed it's doors. There used to be a guy on the forums who bought the excess frames when the dealership closed. I believe he finished selling them off many years ago. In addition, my first 911 was one of the last cars sold from the VP dealership and it came to me with it's original frame still on the car. This was almost 15 years ago.

[LongRanger]

Previous appearances --- see post #105 + 412

From the '68 PDL . . .

426/024/1
Gus Mozart Volkswagen
825 El Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94302

. . . becoming, according to the January '70 issue of Panorama . . .

Mozart Porsche Audi
1766 Embarcadero Road
Palo Alto

. . . then, in the >'70 PDLs, moving to . . .

1730 Embarcadero
etc


Semi-matt white lettering in medium blue letter boxes, flash-chromed, no Makers' marks/ID, plate = std CA pass, etc . . .

[Silverbullit]

Rick…fyi
The correct address for Mozart Porsche+Audi would be 1730 E. Embarcadero Rd, Palo Alto, Ca.

[55Outlaw]

Here are my plates on my 71 T

[LongRanger]

. . . The correct address for Mozart Porsche+Audi would be 1730 E. Embarcadero Rd, Palo Alto, Ca . . .

Yikes . . . and you're right

Got lazy --- 'copied + pasted' . . .


Thread updated . . .


. . . and Mozart had three addresses, that I could find

[LongRanger]

From the '70 PDL . . .

Travale Porsche Audi
907 North El Dorado
Stockton, CA

Standard matt white lettering on med blue letter boxes, flash-chromed, no Makers' marks/ID, shown w/ std CA pass, etc, etc --- yeah-yeah, wrong year, whatever . . .



Overall, pretty nice condition little bit . . . w/ only traces of the screws that held it on whatever car/truck/trailer/vehicle that it came off of. Indifferent finishing is pretty typical --- blue looks brushed, maybe? --- then the white rolled on?. I'd almost think that this's been re-finished . . . but the back-side is just about spotless, so . . . wonder where this thing's been hiding/hanging all these years. One-year-only dealer, too

STOP the Presses Printing occupies the location today --- and it's not a big one, lemme tell ya . . . about the size of one of today's gas station/mini-marts. How many cars could a place that small 've sold in such a short time? . . .

. . . and in Stockton ---- !?!