FS: DOM Replacement Key Card 1970-1973 and Up

My reproduction DOM key cards are ready! :D Got these just the other day and they look very nice. Fun little project.

Porsche put one of these cards, attached to the two red valet keys, in each 911 and 914 glove box starting in 1970. If the keys became lost and you kept your card (in a safe place) you could call Porsche with the stamped HC number and receive a fresh set of pre-cut keys. Thanks to Eric (neunelfer) for getting me going on this one with his original thread here: http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...read.php?71696

Over Thanksgiving I found an original tag took measurements, photos etc. These are spot on, except for one thing... there is no stamped number on the HC tag line. I can stamp your number if you'd like. If you don't know it and you have your Invoice sheet or Kardex you can find it there. See the two examples below:

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Price: $17 shipped with zip tie to attach the two red valet keys.

DOM valet key blanks (pn 914.531.903.11) are still available from Porsche for about 20 bucks so you can get them at your favorite parts supplier: Pelican, Stoddard, Zim's, etc.

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Those are nicer than the originals! Great job Carl.

Carl,
e mail sent.

Cheers,
Dennis. :)

Example of my reproduction key card stamped. This does not cost any extra or take more time so if you know your number let me know!

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Carl
I will take one. I will PM you with the Key number.
as an aside i have an original one in my glove box with a key with a very small black head attached. The number on the card is 516 however that key does not work on any of the locks in my car, and the key number for the car is very different - starts with CO and has 3 numbers ... and keys cut to that code work on all my locks.

also the number stamped on the one I have is in Blue ink - see attached photo

do you know when the HC numbers went from plain numbers to ones with letters? My car is a 73 so i presume they ran out of number combinations fairly early on.
the reason i ask is i dont know if mine is C zero etc or CO for orange. I had always thought it was the latter but now I am not so sure.

If someone out there is the rightful owner of key 516 I will be happy to give this to them.

carl
got mine today
thanks - it looks great. I put the old plastic tie on it and one of my red keys - fantastic

thanks

What is the small headed key for? Is the code on the ignition, or where?

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Originally Posted by HughH

carl
got mine today
thanks - it looks great. I put the old plastic tie on it and one of my red keys - fantastic

thanks

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Hugh

How did you find out your key number if that one didn't match?

Carl,
Received my cards and the Pudenz pack.
Both look too good to actually use !

Thanks again, Saint Carl ! :D

Cheers,
Dennis. :)

Is there any other way to find out what the code is? Nice work.

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Originally Posted by super9064

Is there any other way to find out what the code is? Nice work.

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Rob,

I think I read somewhere that it might be stamped on the back of the door handle. I think it would be necessary to remove the handle from the door to get the code.

Can anyone with an 1970+ door handle off the car confirm this?

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Originally Posted by BOYER73S

Hugh

How did you find out your key number if that one didn't match?

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Clyde
I already knew it - came with the paperwork with the car - i just had this other one with the small key and different number that i have never been able to trace (not tried hard either). I suspect at some time there may have been a replacement door lock or something - I had to rekey one (from memory) of the doors when i got the car. (ie he changed the internals in the door lock to match all the locks)

the guys at Porsche can confirm the key number that is original to the car - at some stage in the past i checked and the key number i have now is original to the car.

I spoke with the Porsche dealer parts dept. They just need a copy of the title or registration and copy of your drivers license. They can then get the HC# from Porsche.

The Porsche dealer was able to provide the key code, however it turns out I had it all the time. I found it hand written in the Maintenance record. Check out the pics.

Carl, thanks again for doing this for our community.

Two notes regarding these cards:

1) A hand written number can also be appropriate. I stumbled across the battered original DOM card to my '79 911SC and the number is hand written. This may in fact be a later change but it'll work in a pinch ;)

2) I will have these cards at the LA Lit Show along with a few of my other items. Tony Euganeo, a longtime fixture at the Lit Show, can sell you the correct red valet key blanks and cut them on the spot. You'll then have two freshly cut valet keys w/ tag ready for that concours glove box by Saturday afternoon.

I still have these for anyone who has reoccurring nightmares of a glove box opening concours judge. :D

Question, I have a Red Key from my car with a sticker on it that reads NC XXX. I’m assuming that NC denotes the Valet key and HC the Master Key, Correct?

Carl are you still selling these replacement cards ?

Hi Carl-

Received my DOM key cards the other day, they look great! I though I would post a photo of my spare key with the factory sticker and plastic snap ring on it attached to the card.

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Originally Posted by ppua

Carl are you still selling these replacement cards ?

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I am. Send me a PM with your HC code if you want it stamped like Bernd's above. If you don't know your code right now you can always write it in later... the factory did this as well. I'll send payment info to you as well.

Got mine today! Quick and perfect! Best. Max

For those interested, here are some pics of factory plastic ties for the DOM card and spare keys. Maybe if someone recognizes them the manufacturer can be traced.

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Just out of general interest: the keytag that came with my '76 Turbo Carrera #470 had a handwritten code, also the VIN number on a sticker...

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Originally Posted by brandonh

Just out of general interest: the keytag that came with my '76 Turbo Carrera #470 had a handwritten code, also the VIN number on a sticker...

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The key tag for my US-delivered '73 S (#1113) also has the VIN on a sticker, although the key code is printed not handwritten. Will post a pic when I get a moment..

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Originally Posted by super9064

I spoke with the Porsche dealer parts dept. They just need a copy of the title or registration and copy of your drivers license. They can then get the HC# from Porsche.

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I called the local dealer today to see if they would be able to obtain the key number for my '73, and they said that while they could order a new key if I were to provide them with the key number, they were unaware of any procedure that would allow them to obtain the key number if I were to provide the VIN and proof of ownership.

Is there something I should be telling them that they do not know? Or can somebody recommend a dealership that I can contact that does know how to obtain the key number?

The dealer thought that it may be possible for a locksmith to decode the key number from the key itself, or from the tumblers in the key mechanism. If so, would this be the same key number that would appear on the DOM card? I need to re-key one of my door handles, so I will be taking the lock mechanism to a locksmith anyway if I don't have the right combination of tumblers at home.

Thanks,
Frank

I sent a red and a black (blank) Porsch key, together with my car's ignition key to copy from, to a small key cutting company here in the UK (chosen because their website mentioned they do classic car keys) - and they sent back the freshly cut keys within a few days with a note telling me what my key code was (which I didn't ask them for) which I then confirmed was indeed the correct code (as I have my car's original key code card). They told me they can work out the code of any early Porsche key - I assume just from its shape. I later found out that by coincidence the owner of the business has a '73 911 S !!

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Originally Posted by 911ES

I sent a red and a black (blank) Porsch key, together with my car's ignition key to copy from, to a small key cutting company here in the UK (chosen because their website mentioned they do classic car keys) - and they sent back the freshly cut keys within a few days with a note telling me what my key code was (which I didn't ask them for) which I then confirmed was indeed the correct code (as I have my car's original key code card). They told me they can work out the code of any early Porsche key - I assume just from its shape. I later found out that by coincidence the owner of the business has a '73 911 S !!

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Is it too much to ask for the web address of that company? :)

I see that this company out of Australia offers a key decoding service by simply sending in a photo of your key. They can cut keys from the code as well. Has anyone ever used them?

I sent them an email asking for a quote to decode the keys for my '73 & '77 - I'll post the amount when I get a response.

http://www.keys4classics.com/

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Originally Posted by Biancaneve

Is it too much to ask for the web address of that company? :)

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http://www.cooperkeys.co.uk/page6.html

Ask for Chris Cooper.

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Originally Posted by 911ES

http://www.cooperkeys.co.uk/page6.html

Ask for Chris Cooper.

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Thanks a lot!

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Originally Posted by frankc

I see that this company out of Australia offers a key decoding service by simply sending in a photo of your key. They can cut keys from the code as well. Has anyone ever used them?

I sent them an email asking for a quote to decode the keys for my '73 & '77 - I'll post the amount when I get a response.

http://www.keys4classics.com/

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Price for a key decode alone is $15 per key. I had two keys decoded with a master key cut from each code (to make sure the code is correct), which I will try when the keys arrive. Total was $56 with shipping, and the codes were sent to me the next day (due to time zones) via email. So far I'm very pleased with the service.

I'll post an update when the keys arrive and are tested.

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Originally Posted by frankc

Price for a key decode alone is $15 per key. I had two keys decoded with a master key cut from each code (to make sure the code is correct), which I will try when the keys arrive. Total was $56 with shipping, and the codes were sent to me the next day (due to time zones) via email. So far I'm very pleased with the service.

I'll post an update when the keys arrive and are tested.

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Got my code today in almost real time ... Stuart is a great guy!

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Originally Posted by frankc

I'll post an update when the keys arrive and are tested.

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I received my two keys ('73 & '77) today from Stuart and I'm happy to report that they both work.

Time to order the DOM cards :).

Frank,

Sent you a PM on the DOM cards and the fuse packs.

Do any of you know how many possible HC codes combination exist?

DOM Card arrived the other day; of the highest quality. Will put it in the heavily OBP supported glove box shrine...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pskms1bcyy.jpg

Thanks again,

I want please Carl but couldn't see your email anywhere?

clydeboyer911@gmail.com

I also need a DOM card. I have sent a PM to Carl.
kyriakos59@gmail.com
Hope that Carl will respond.

Might be a long bow for us as this thread is 9 years dormant:D

Wish the old website was still live…

I’ll take one too if available. PM sent.

Thanks
Gitesh

Unfortunately Carl doesn’t seem to provide these any more but I have found this site in Germany that can provide reproductions:

https://www.open-s.de/themes/kategor...1&languageid=2

They are more expensive at EUR 50 but they provide the yellow vin sticker too and stamp the card with your key number. Would the yellow vin sticker be applicable to late 73 cars (it was mentioned earlier on this thread). Also note the key number prefix is HC/NC. I have seen an RS with this type of key tag so maybe so unless it was a repro.

Good job Gitesh you go first to be the test dummy:D

I wouldn’t mind but they have a couple of versions and I am not sure which one is right for my car. They also sell the type that Carl produced (no yellow vin sticker and only HC prefix on the key number line) but this one they describe as 80s/90s with a barcode sticker on the back.

Can anybody help with what was originally provided for 73 cars on both sides?

Thanks

Back in 2020 this time warp 72 was sold at an auction house in Melbourne, had been locked away for years.

Pics are of it's original docs but show only the rear side of the key tag which has no vin sticker.

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Originally Posted by 911GP

I wouldn’t mind but they have a couple of versions and I am not sure which one is right for my car. They also sell the type that Carl produced (no yellow vin sticker and only HC prefix on the key number line) but this one they describe as 80s/90s with a barcode sticker on the back.

Can anybody help with what was originally provided for 73 cars on both sides?

Thanks

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Don't think they sell what we want Gitesh.

I know Hugh Hodges bought his from Carl might see if I can borrow and get some reproduced by a Porsche friend who owns a large printing company here in Melbourne or see if I can track the owner of the 72 to borrow his originals.

Thanks Clyde. A couple of observations:

The one that Carl produced does look like the second version on the German website:

https://www.open-s.de/themes/kategor...amp;referid=31

They refer to this as 80s/90s but the only difference I see between this version and Carl's is that barcode sticker on the back, which Carl's does not have. Also note that the card title is "Hauptschlussel - Main Key". Post 22 above also shows several old sets with "Main Key".


I think it is time to start a thread in the Technical section for some additional help from those with original key tags.

Thanks
Gitesh

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Originally Posted by 911GP

Thanks Clyde. A couple of observations:

The one that Carl produced does look like the second version on the German website:

https://www.open-s.de/themes/kategor...amp;referid=31

They refer to this as 80s/90s but the only difference I see between this version and Carl's is that barcode sticker on the back, which Carl's does not have. Also note that the card title is "Hauptschlussel - Main Key". Post 22 above also shows several old sets with "Main Key".


I think it is time to start a thread in the Technical section for some additional help from those with original key tags.

Thanks
Gitesh

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Hugh sent me pics today of the Carl card he has.

It is for the Master keys and he quite rightly points out there are in fact 2 cards and the pics I posted are for the auxillary (spare) keys.

Hugh does also have an original Master card which looks identical to Carls card, the card from the site you posted is missing some red writing on the back unless it is covered by the Vin sticker.

If I can get access to the original auxillary card and then use Carls card that Hugh has I should be able to reproduce these accurately.

I know 2 people who want both you and me Gitesh:D Perhaps others will be interested as well if we need volume to get the price to be sensible.