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    Option Codes

    Came across this thread talking about 3-digit option codes . . .

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...%2C+71%2C+911T

    Very interesting --- especially post #16

    I could've 'subscribed' to this thread --- book-marked it, basically . . . but I'm already subscribed to so much stuff that it'd prolly just get lost, so . . . putting it someplace where even I can find it

    Oh yeah . . . found 470 = comfort group

    And more, here . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...t=dealer+codes
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    Nasty Old Wheel

    Finally got that Old Wheel installed --- see post #167 . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...rmarket+wheels

    Purchased here, from Phillip Leemans (thatcarpart), $865 incl shpg fr EU

    1059 came w/ a MOMO Monte Carlo when I bought her, 4 years, ago. Not my favorite choice --- and not a period bit, at all . . . so I’d looked for a replacement, almost immediately. Couldn’t find anything genuine + vintage on short-notice ---- didn’t really know where to look + what to get, honestly . . . so I’d tried fitting the OG/stock/heavy + HUGE original --- yup, still around . . . but found that I could barely squeeze in behind the beast, let alone manage the car comfortably, so . . .

    Picked-up Classico’s R-Replica wheel + hub-extension. Between the smaller diameter and the extra 60 mm-or-so closer, it was a LOT easier + more comfortable sitting + driving

    Really nice bits, too. Wheel is immaculate/beautiful, perfect finish, thick + smooth + black, white contrasting stitching . . . wonderful. Even came w/ a tricky little alloy horn-button, made, it looks like --- from a Fuchs wheel cap? Turned-out very nice + been in the car, all this time . . . to every car show, every swap meet, for every mile, since. Even came cross-country w/ this wheel . . . works perfect . . .

    . . . and totally wrong for an Old Car --- like 1059

    Even after 4 years o’ service? --- that wheel looks brand-new. Still. Sticks out inside the car like a nobody’s business

    Anyway, I’d kept-on looking for an Old Wheel. Even bought a few, kinda started a little bitty collection. But wheels are expensive. And the ones I really wanted didn’t seemed to show up, that often. Or, at all

    An Abarth was my preference. In black. ‘Slotted’ vs ‘drilled’ spokes, angular/linear, spare-almost-skeletal . . . . neat-as-hell. And fragile. And invisible. Found + bought a couple --- call ‘em Fauxbarths . . . then got a genuine one in silver one that I’d considered re-finishing, but . . .

    Then there were some of the other more-off-the-wall MOMOs . . . like the ‘Circle 1’ --- a proper S/T bit --- see post #182 . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...rmarket+wheels

    Had to be black, but also . . . none around

    Then last summer --- something different turned-up . . . a MOMO ‘Le Mans . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-Mans-for-sale

    . . . so --- I got it

    More + more . . . I like this wheel. Like seeing the name, peeking out from the bottom spoke --- Le Mans + Porsche = history, which I’m fascinated by, anyway. Also, the Le Mans is vinyl-covered --- not leather . . . so, even though it’ll never weather/wear/break-in like a bovine-derived wheel . . . it doesn’t take any special care, either. Scratch leather-care from the cleaning regimen. In fact, I can clean the Le Mans the same way I clean my tires ---- and with the same stuff, too

    Plus, like the rest of the car . . . I expect it to out-live me

    Anyway, it’d been a while since I changed-out a steering wheel --- I had John Forbes et al install the R-replica, back when the car was in Charlotte . . . so, when the time came --- I had not-a-clue how + what + etc, so . . . . kinda put it off + put it off, ‘til --- all-of-sudden . . . . it’s time for The Phoenix Show!

    OK --- let’s go

    I asked Marco how to take the horn-button out, and he said that it should just pull/slide/pop out. It did

    First surprise. The R-rep wheel was held on by some regular/proper teeny-weenie hex bolts --- vs the Allen keyed dzu-head counter-sinks MOMO usually uses. And NOT 6 fasteners . . . just 5

    (Next time I see Morrissey offer-up a 906/908 5-bolt racer wheel . . . . I'm telling ya! ---)

    Since the Le Mans needed a different fastener to mount, I couldn’t re-cycle the existing hardware . . . so I was kinda stuck

    So --- I ordered an 80mm extension + proper hardware from Zuffenhaus, waited, but it turned-out that those bits weren’t gonna make it in time, so . . .

    I was just about to give up, when . . .

    I took a look at the old Monte Carlo --- also MOMO . . . checked-out the attaching hardware --- I keep everything . . . saw that it had what-looked-like the Right Stuff, and? . . . voila’ --- made it work!



    1) Classico's R-Replica. I'll put up all the details on the Aftermarket Wheel thread . . . but this is one beautiful bit. Sturdy + light, as well

    2) Hardware is specific for the 5-bolt install only

    3) Classico's hub extension is drilled/configured for several hole-patterns . . . incl MOMO's

    4) There she be! Holes lined-up, pretty-well . . . 'cept the Last One. Applied a little bike lube to the 10 o'clock bolt, loosened everything, twingled-everything-around some, then landed/tightened gently

    5) A Little Touch o' History . . . matches the license frame, too. Check-out the 'gap' at the bottom . . . vinyl has shrunk + pulled-apart


    Nasty Old Wheel
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    that's choice.
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    Looks like a nice improvement - with all the circles on the steering wheel, and the dials working together.
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    You need to get a period-correct hub. The one you have may work well, but it's too modern. There was a guy at the Swap selling a few looooooooong hubs ... I may even have a couple here you can try out if the bolt pattern matches up.
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    Brood

    I brood

    Got a decent mind + memory --- but I don’t always ‘get’ stuff, right away. Good understanding takes me a while. And I don’t usually get things quite-all-right the first time. And I’m seldom the first to finish. Anything. But I do put things together, eventually --- as much to remember them as make sense out of them. Especially when things aren’t obviously connectable. Takes me time . . . to remember/figure-out/connect

    And --- since I’m not patient + resent spending that time . . . I brood . . .


    A Long Time Ago, when I got my first Porsche, my Roadster, + really started getting into these cars, I ran into + pal'd-up with Craig Stevenson. Craig was One of Those Guys --- The Deep-End. He had some cars, some parts, a little business buying/selling/fixing/restoring/helping --- been into Porsche since forever. Knowledgeable/interesting/fun Character. And Lucky Enough to have seen it all + owned some amazing cars --- Spyders, Carreras, The Good Stuff . . . when they were just cars . . . but Unlucky Enough to’ve let most of them go . . .

    But . . . . still Lucky Enough to be able to find them. Like the Dr Porsche Cab --- see post #9 . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...venson+carrera

    Still remember that car . . . the first time I saw it . . . the first time Craig told me The Story

    Car was a total Faktory-custom. And blue --- metallic blue/pearl red, to be exact. Special color . . . + Dr Porsche’s ‘personal’ shade, according to Craig’s correspondence w/ The Faktory

    And so, years later, when I came here, and read about another ‘Dr Porsche’ car --- 308468S --- see post #7. . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...venson+carrera

    Thread here . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...hlight=308468S

    . . . saw + recognized + remembered the color. Blue, again . . . ‘special’ shade



    Then, a few years after that, I read/saw some pictures that Raj (varunan123) ‘d taken at the newly-opened Porsche Museum. No surprise that all kinds of ‘personal’ cars turned-up, there --- the 928 station-wagon, a 993 Cab, and, most interestingly/specifically . . . . Mrs Porsche's personal Sporto --- see post #57 . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...e-Greens/page6

    Not blue . . .

    . . . green

    Which kinda struck me at the time. Looked like, some time after ’67, the preferred color for ‘personal’ Porsches changed


    I like green --- it was the color that got me when I first saw 1059. And, when I saw Mrs Porsche’s 911, I thought . . . hey--- that car’s green . . .

    . . . just like mine




    So then, a coupla weeks back, I find out that 1059 was a ‘dealer 100 = factory use’ car

    Interesting, but --- so what . . . no details . . . 'no history' . . .


    And then, yesterday --- I remembered something . . .

    1059 was delivered in December ‘69

    . . . started thinking

    December?

    That’s kooky. Who the heck buys a car in December? That time o’ year? . . . all I’m thinking about is the end-of-the-business-year, taxes, taking vacation, family stuff, and . . .

    --- Weinachten

    . . . . = Christmas

    !



    So --- you know what I think?

    I think that 1059 was somebody’s Christmas gift/present



    And so now . . . . add in . . .

    Who gives/gets a car for Christmas

    + 'Dealer 100 = factory use'

    + Green . . . 'just like mine'


    = Brood
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    When I first saw your post a while back about 'factory use', I immediately thought of the possibility of a 'family green' connection. Looks like you did too.

    Wouldn't that be something...
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    March, 2013 . . .

    Fitted the new wheel, so . . . . had to try it out

    Not exactly easy to see in the photos but the Le Mans is a useful almost-an-inch-or-so smaller in dia. Lets me keep my knees more vertical/legs a little less-splayed-out when I’m behind the wheel --- WAY more comfortable, lemme tell ya . . . and also allows me to move that bikini seat a notch closer-in + putting some slack into my arms + getting all of my back supported by the seat back

    I’m getting relaxed just describing this

    Anyway, overall? --- I’m a lot more happy in the saddle . . . downright cushy in there. Seating position is pretty-much vertical --- which is my taste, anyway . . . ‘though the headliner’s still pretty close. But, I’m never gonna wear a helmet in this thing, anyway, so . . . I’m calling the addition/installation of the Le Mans an ergonomic success. Abarth’d be prettier, but . . .

    Another little surprise --- and something that may not be immediately obvious from the photo . . . is the smaller/thinner rim. The Le Mans’ covering’s a not-so-squishy vinyl, glossy + semi-fossilized after 40-some years of service. And --- because of the subtle-but-smaller overall dia = 14 in/355 mm . . . I was expecting some more effort required to turn the wheel; smaller dia = less leverage, etc. I suppose the effort might be a bit more --- the physics haven’t changed . . . but that thinner rim has an interesting/unexpected effect on how the car feels/responds. Now, 1059 feels downright relaxed through the steering, almost delicate. Before, using the wheel was more physical, even muscular --- + I gripped a thick/padded rim with my hands, held on . . . but, now? . . . I pinch a thinner/harder bit with my fingers, just guide the car . . . really surprising how easy it is to drive. Not expecting that, like . . . at all


    Found another ‘number’ on the car --- a small plastic label w/ the car’s VIN . . . driver’s side A-pillar . . . externally-visible ID, added for CA DMV, when the car was imported, maybe?


    Real curious about what the approx production date for 9110301059 + 1002454 + 6301439 might be . . . or where it fits in w/ other cars. Wrote to davepPorsche Historian addicted since, etc’ . . . his guess is Feb or Mar ’70. My latest information has an invoice date = 01-Dec-69 --- but no specific delivery date, just . . . delivered in Dec ‘69


    And also, wrote to AMAG --- sent copies of current reg + ins docs, pics of VIN + prod no, along w/ detailed request . . . waiting


    And we went to The Phoenix Show --- Zovig + I + 1059 . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...March-3rd-2013!

    Picked-up a frame --- a very nice Freeway . . . thank you, Richard! . . . and saw John E + Gib + Jay the Frame Guy + Tony + Lois + Marco + Chuck + John D + Lars + Mrs King + Rolly + Jerry + Magnus. Pretty exciting --- BIG Early 911 buzz. And we had a good time


    Next Big Thing coming-up/looking forward to is the PCA Dealeo at Fontana, Saturday, 06-Apr . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...rs-of-911-.-.-.

    Bruce Herrington from PCA has organized a display of ‘50 years of 911s’ --- and 1059 gets to represent 1970. I am sooooo NOT a Concours Guy . . . but displaying the car as part of an historical display? --- now THAT sounds like fun. Dirt, nicks/scratches, funky floor-mats . . . mascot/mousies in the doors --- no problem. Besides --- we get in for free. I’ve already been told to bring plenty of sun-block

    Real curious to see if the Early 911 Buzz from The Phoenix Show carries over here. Lotta members of Our Little Corner reside somewhat close-by, so I’m kinda hoping to see a lotta Early 911S Registrunts in attendance. This is a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the 911. . . and I think that the display of all those cars from all those years --- especially the early cars . . . will make quite the impact

    So would a bunch of Early 911s in the display area . . .

    . . . all wearing their Early 911S Registry stickers/badges/flags/assorted regalia


    Which reminds me . . . . need to put on my Early 911S Registry sticker
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    Hi Rick - Good talking to you today. Having owned "your" Porsche (that's hard for me to say still!) for over 20 years, a lot of good memories endure. I had owned 3 other early 911's prior to the "S", but none had that pull that the early S has. When I looked at and drove the car, then for sale by Lou Scalzo, I was impressed. Still, I was unsure whether buying another sports car (I had a Pantera also) was a wise choice for my then-young marriage. But it was my wife who encouraged me to get it. She saw I had the fever. Anyway, I never regretted it. In those dark early days of(1987?) performance cars were just starting to come back, and a properly tuned early 911S was still considered FAST. I know I had a few highway encounters with Mustangs , Camaros & the like and I seemed to always end up smiling. Obviously that would not be the case today, but my appreciation for the sounds & feel of that car remain undiminished. Sometimes, it's not how fast you go, but how you go fast. I have driven quite a few late model performance cars, that, while impressive, leave me feeling anaesditized (did I spell that right?). The visceral feel, the feedback & the sounds of an early "S" will always make it a more fun drive, at least to me, than modern machinery. Anyway, I have great memories of country drives, both in Florida, and later on Hilton Head island with 1059. I'm just glad, Rick, it got "passed on" to someone who appreciates it for it's virtues. - Mark Allbaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. View Post
    . . . Hi Rick - Good talking to you today . . . a lot of good memories endure . . . Sometimes, it's not how fast you go, but how you go fast . . . I'm just glad, Rick, it got "passed on" to someone who appreciates it . . .
    Hey, Mark! . . .

    Good talking to you, too --- as always . . . and great to see you here, on the board --- and your first post

    I hope you'll have a chance to poke around the site, this thread. This is pretty much the only Porsche board that I'm on any more, and, as you can see, I'm really enjoying the car. The site can be a little exhausting, sometimes --- TONS of information + photos + stories + details about these cars, here . . . stuff that I'd never find, anywhere else --- and some interesting people, too. But I think that The Registry + having one of these cars --- belong/go together . . . like nothing else. But be careful . . . you might find yourself wanting another Longhood. (Don't say that I didn't warn you)

    You know I'm gonna keep buggin' ya for stories, right?

    And I've still got those old snap-shots you gave me --- I'll put 'em up, here, shortly. Meanwhile, please feel free to post any more, if you have/find 'em

    And I told you what I know about the car's history, so far . . . I'm hot-on-the-hunt for that Anderson Guy --- the one who originally imported the car (I think) . . . hope to know something shortly

    We'll be in touch, My Friend
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