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    Original vs. Repro 901 Shift Knobs

    As with so many other early parts, there's a lot of confusion about original 901 shift knobs and reproductions. And, as with so many early parts, there are reproductions and there are reproductions. Some are earlier than others and very close to originals. Others are cheapies. Others are new very nice ones. I have found the main difference between all repros that I have seen and originals to usually be three things:

    (1) The originals are noticeably thinner at the bottom than the repros and the edge is more rounded vs. the flat edges on the repros.

    (2) The originals I have seen have been more of a matte black than a glossy black, but maybe that's due to patina.

    (3) The originals had flattish numbers and most of the repro's have numbers that are somewhat rounded.

    To further complicate things, a a fellow forum member has pointed out to me, the upper vertical part of the "5" was straight on knobs know to be original, but may be a bit slanted on knobs that could be reproductions or originals.

    Here's one I believe to be an original:

    original-top.JPG

    original-bottom.JPG

    Here's one I know to be a later reproduction:

    repro-top.JPG

    repro-bottom.JPG

    I've seen knobs with thin bottoms, flat numbers and straight and slanted "5's". But I've never seen a repro without a fat bottom.

    I hope that helps.

    We need to cut a little slack sometimes because the differences between original parts and reproduction parts produced at different times can be very fine indeed.

    JohnA
    John Audette
    Bend, Oregon

    Lighting up the road - Restoring a few H1's and H4's at a time.

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    +1 makes me think that the one I just sold was an original. One other point on the 2 original knobs I had, down inside the knob (so underneath the shift pattern) mine both had sort of a nipple. I have never seen a repro but did these have that nipple on the inside top also? Here is a picture from underside of the 2 I had. The one on the right is for sure original and one on the left I believe is a like new original. If you look close you can see both rims are rounded (also thin) and there is a nipple inside top on both. Maybe I should have kept the one I sold to John but it was too nice to put in my car!IMG_0498.jpg
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    The inside of the repro I have is very different from the originals.

    image.jpg

    And good angle to see how wide and flat the rim is.

    Might be a great way to check before offering one for sale.

    JohnA
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    John,

    Look at the shape of the '1' in the two photos you have posted. They are also distinctly different. I wonder if that difference is consistent? I will have a look at the knob in the '71 later today.
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    Interesting Brian, they've very different. And to further complicate things, the "1" on the original I posted here is more similar to the "1" on the three knobs posted for sale yesterday than it is to the repro posted here. Looks like we're up to three versions. It would be nice to see the inside of the ones posted for sale yesterday and compare with the two here.

    I'm obviously a hopeless geek. But the detective work is fun.

    JohnA
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    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some production variation over the years. Absolutes are hard to come by. I'm still not convinced that the ones sold yesterday were original.
    I'd also like to see the quality of the new Dansk repop for $25
    http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...9%2C%20Each%20
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    John,

    IMO, the three knobs sold as NOS, look like the repro knob you posted up and the cracked original look like the knob that Mike posted in the same thread. The top of number one that 'points' left is pointed on the repro but blunted on the originals (I think).

    (one of three, sold as NOS, but repro IMO)


    (original posted by Mike)


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    Quote Originally Posted by kentf14 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some production variation over the years. Absolutes are hard to come by. I'm still not convinced that the ones sold yesterday were original.
    I'd also like to see the quality of the new Dansk repop for $25
    http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...9%2C%20Each%20
    For $25 I think we know the answer to that! Can anybody comment on the Dansk with firsthand knowledge?
    Mike Fitton
    1970 914-6 Tangerine
    1991 911 Carrera 2 Targa Black
    1971 911T Targa Bahia Red
    1974 914 2.0 Alaska Blue Metallic - Sold!
    Arlington Hts., IL

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfitton View Post
    For $25 I think we know the answer to that! Can anybody comment on the Dansk with firsthand knowledge?
    Just ordered one. I'll report back.

    JohnA
    John Audette
    Bend, Oregon

    Lighting up the road - Restoring a few H1's and H4's at a time.

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    Picture of the Dansk from PP.

    Dansk 915 Knob
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