New F1 culture/rules

[Kris Clewell]

Couple of thoughts:

1. I have been reading the new Folmer book entitled George Folmer American Wheel Man. For everyone that wants to go back to the days of the Can Am and the other series in the late 60's and early 70's, just remind yourself of all of the great drivers that were lost "back in the day" top speed has been governed for quite sometime now...lap times have gotten quicker as a function of suspension, brake and aero advances...We are living in some sort of fantasy land to think those guys self governed themselves...they did not....what they did was die trying to go as fast as they could

2. As for the Can Am...one of the reasons it was so wild was because "New" technology showed up at just about every race...from the Shadow knee high car to the Sucker car to the 917-10 and 30 that shut things down

3. RE: Sound. I loved the sound of the old engines....in Montreal, you could hear that siren scream all the way across the St. Lawrence, and as hard as it may be to believe, when you are standing right beside the fence...which you can do heading into the hairpin at Montreal, the sound the car makes as it cuts through the wind is almost as piercing as the engine note....New isn't always bad...the first time I heard the Audi turbo diesel at Sebring, it sounded like a sewing machine going by....but what was lost by the engine note was suplanted by the sound of each tire grabbing for grip during heavy braking or exceleration....plus, you could actually hear the suspension pieces working as the car tried to dampen everything that old track threw at it

4. Time marches on. alternative fuel racing cars are the future...love it or loath it. I for one am glad that racing has the possibility of getting back near the front of the curve from a technology standpoint..(It may be as Curt points out, they are taking something simple and making it complicated, but at least it is some progress).....I think all of you guys who yearn for the past have nothing to worry about....NASCAR runs just about every form of motorsports in the US now...so get your fill of those lovely DP cars....ain't the past just wonderful

[beh911]

Somehow, I don't think Montreal this year will be the same...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4Dh_EAfJI

Good grief that vid sums it up. Taken from the same seat, maybe even same opening lap at each race.

I hear Melbourne is looking for breach of contract on Bernie for the sound (or lack thereof). It was supposed to be part of the circus they are claiming.

Curious how he will react to this, as I imagine he will claim his hands are tied by engine guidelines defined by FIA that have been in the works for years now...

[Kris Clewell]

http://en.espnf1.com/australia/motor...ry/149751.html

yep! HA!

[sithot]

I guess it comes down to who could screw up a free lunch worse. Them or the redneck racing lobby here. It'd be a close race. No pun intended.

How about a Tesla Cup?

Prius Cup for those on a budget.

[Kris Clewell]

I guess it comes down to who could screw up a free lunch worse. Them or the redneck racing lobby here. It'd be a close race. No pun intended.

How about a Tesla Cup?

Prius Cup for those on a budget.

this all reminds me of the top gear where the m3 gets better fuel economy on the track than a prius.

http://www.topgear.com/au/videos/compass42

[hgarazo]

Many people here can choose to buy a new 911, but most are here because they don't.

"And now, back to our regularly scheduled programing..."

http://www.motorsportretro.com/2014/...ng-f1-engines/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxVUrb8NyWQ

[sithot]

The Renoir V10 did it for me. I especially like the necessity to manually match revs in heel/toe downshifting.

Cool videos. Thanks for the memories.

[beh911]

The Matra V12.

I came across a piece recently where Mario Andretti waxed philosophical on that being the best sounding engine of all time in F1.

[Flieger]

I would put the Ferrari 412 on that list.

[Kris Clewell]

oh my god.