Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: Dansk SSI's, Surgery Required?

  1. #1

    Dansk SSI's, Surgery Required?

    I bought a new a pair of JP Dansk SSI heat exchangers and while installing them today I realized the right side heat exchanger will not fit (the left went on with no issues). Basically it's too fat at the air inlet hole (at the rear of the car) and is hitting the right rear corner of the valve cover and cam tower. It's not obvious in the included pictures but it's very obvious when you actually try and mount them to the car. I trimmed some material off the cam tower (not really what I wanted to do) but it's obvious more needs to go before they will seat on their respective exhaust flanges correctly. I put an original on just to size things up and it fits perfectly with room to spare. I'm not sure if there's something I can do to make it fit or if anybody else has run into this problem with the new JP Dansk SSI heat exchangers. Any help or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

    Stretch

    Name:  ssi 2.jpg
Views: 616
Size:  72.5 KB

    Name:  ssi 1.jpg
Views: 611
Size:  63.9 KB
    Registry # 3063

  2. #2
    Senior Member Haasman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    N.Calif., south of SF
    Posts
    2,016
    I would contact the seller. These should be close to a right-on fit.
    Haasman

    Registry #2489
    R Gruppe #722
    65 911 #302580
    70 914-6 #9140431874
    73 911s #9113300709

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    290
    I have SSIs on my 2.7 and there is no clearance issue in this area, however my SSIs are "pre-Dansk". Is Dansk using the same stamping tools? I can't imagine why they would change that.

    The engine is currently out of the car, so I just snapped the photo below of the right exchanger - hopefully this helps. Let me know if you need a different angle.

    Name:  IMG_3285.jpg
Views: 581
Size:  105.0 KB
    '73 RoW 911T (project)
    '77 911S
    Early911SReg #2945

  4. #4
    It appears, based on the few pictures I found on the 'net of original SSI's, that there is a change in shape on this inlet when comparing mine. The original ones look smaller and more streamlined for lack of a better term (see picture) which would create the space required to fit properly. The new JP Dansk versions are bulkier in this area it would appear (see second picture of somebody with the same problem). Based on this, trading it out for another one wouldn't buy me anything assuming they're all the the same. I'll call the seller Monday but if this is how the new JP Dansk SSI's are then I would think nobody's right side heat exchanger would fit without modification to the heat exchanger and/or cam tower. I would think this would be a major problem worthy of a correction so I'm wondering if I'm the only one (couldn't imagine I would be) or if others have had the same issues.

    Stretch

    Pictures from other sites

    Name:  ssi 3.jpg
Views: 597
Size:  49.6 KB

    Name:  ssi 4.jpg
Views: 601
Size:  67.0 KB
    Last edited by Stretch32; 01-31-2015 at 08:05 PM.
    Registry # 3063

  5. #5
    A quick follow up after doing a little more reading, it appears others have noted the same problem on other websites. It also appears that Dansk is not using the original SSI stamping to produce these parts simply based on the differences in the original SSI's to the JP Dansk variants.

    I posted a few pictures of the "modification" to the cam tower to try and get the required clearance and of the interference issues between the heat exchanger and the cam tower. You can see where I removed some of the cooling fin on the cam tower to make some room. Any idea if this will hurt anything? I don't think it will since it was just trimming down one of the cast on cooling fins and not any part that is structural. You can also see the notch in the heat exchanger seam I made to clear the valve cover. Some others on the Bird have apparently bent the seam down out of the way to make room. They're also "dimpling" the metal to finish clearing the cam tower with a hammer but I feel like this is a little excessive although it may be the only way short of trying another right side heat exchanger.

    Stretch

    Name:  mod.jpg
Views: 523
Size:  68.8 KB

    Name:  notch.jpg
Views: 569
Size:  71.9 KB
    Registry # 3063

  6. #6
    Senior Member beh911's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    3,620
    The right side exchanger does have fitment issues. I have seen it on a 72 and a 73.5 where you point out above, as well as at the back by the oil cooler.
    On my 69, both sides went on easily with no clearance issues anywhere.

    I wonder if it is related to variances in the manufacturing process or slight differences in engine dimensions year to year?
    1969 S Coupe #761
    Early S Registry #1624

  7. #7
    I'm having the same issues as the 72/73 cars you mention to include rubbing against the oil cooler. I'm working with a '71T coupe with stock 2.2 engine. I guess there's a possibility the dimensions at the cam tower/valve cover area could be slightly different.

    Were you able to finally get them to fit on the 72/73 cars? If so, what did you do?


    Stretch
    Registry # 3063

  8. #8
    Senior Member beh911's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    3,620
    Moved/removed the flange on the SSI exchanger, didn't touch the cam tower like you did

    On rear pushed a dent in to fit around the cooler.
    1969 S Coupe #761
    Early S Registry #1624

  9. #9
    Yeah, I regret cutting down the cam tower but I initially thought a quick trim would get it to sit correctly. Do you think cutting down the cooling fin would cause any long term issues?

    How did you move the flange on the SSI, did you just use a hammer and dolly of some type or did you cut it loose and re-weld it?

    Stretch
    Registry # 3063

  10. #10
    Senior Member Harvey Weidman's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Oroville, CA
    Posts
    1,853
    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch32 View Post
    Yeah, I regret cutting down the cam tower but I initially thought a quick trim would get it to sit correctly. Do you think cutting down the cooling fin would cause any long term issues?

    How did you move the flange on the SSI, did you just use a hammer and dolly of some type or did you cut it loose and re-weld it?
    Stretch
    Stretch32, In my past experiences, I have found it is better to modify the aftermarket part than modifying the Porsche part. Looks like you figured that out. I would have someone fimilar with stainless modify the heat exchanger. Possible heat and ball pein hammer?
    In my experience, cutting and welding will require some real expertise......
    H

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Message Board Disclaimer and Terms of Use
This is a public forum. Messages posted here can be viewed by the public. The Early 911S Registry is not responsible for messages posted in its online forums, and any message will express the views of the author and not the Early 911S Registry. Use of online forums shall constitute the agreement of the user not to post anything of religious or political content, false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise to violate the law and the further agreement of the user to be solely responsible for and hold the Early 911S Registry harmless in the event of any claim based on their message. Any viewer who finds a message objectionable should contact us immediately by email. The Early 911S Registry has the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.