http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...3765&silo=1011
I love Golden Green...
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...3765&silo=1011
I love Golden Green...
Oh sweet baby jesus I love that colour on a Porsche........
Ryan you didn't say it was golden green!
Cam you can never have too many cars!
Cam,
Fly in, race, then fly home. The gentleman racer approach.
Unfortunately the money tree has been ravaged somewhat recently........tempting though
"Golden Green" was going to be my 'fall back' colour had I decided not ot stick with original ;)
Something about this ad looks familiar, anyone know the seller? is it Wayne Seebrook?
And another .... http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...1968_911s.html
And another http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...sche_911e.html
Alex, out of interest, how much needs to be changed on a US spec SCA racer to meet AU Historic Sb specs? Seems to me there's a lot of factory stuff that would have to go back into the US spec car?
Needs to go back to a single plug engine, six inch rims, stock tail lights, interior, steel guards and bonnet, stock shifter, no strut brace.......I think!
This is very very nice:
http://www.historika.com/car-sales/F...0-SWB/3719.htm
Go on, you know you want it!!!
Gee RC you haven't bought a car for almost hmmmm .... 6 months
"Tell him we've already got one"
(for the Monty Python fans)
Alex you'd need to change those hinges, they're used by cheaters!
Sweet as! $$$$ though
This is a 69 not a 70. Has a 119 vin.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...-1970-11995080
I looked back at my old emails and I have 28 detailed photos of the body.
The quote for body repairs was approx $5k with another 8-10 for paint.
Realistically if it was to Sb'd some of that work could be done a little cheaper and much of the paint would not need to be done.
John......project for you perhaps?????
Ha, I just came here to post the same car :)
To me this car borders on being too original... But I suspect I'm in the wrong forum ;)
Tim, I agree. There's around $15k bodywork (unless you're up for having a go yourself - I would if I was taking it racing), and I understand there is significant gearbox noise ($5k for a good rebuild), plus whatever attention the engine needs (you can't just turn a T engine into an S). All of a sudden it's a $50k+ car, do you still race it?
Haha John, that very funny.
My take is 50k is not too much to race it. You'd be hard placed to shift, Andy's, Ryan or my car from me for under 70k (imho), Ryan's more. This car as a log booked and completed car, assuming its been done right should be worth the same money.
I don't think its too nice for an Sb car.
Hey, what would I know, I'm already invested :)
Yeah, I'm hangin' with the wrong crowd :D But I guess that how I get my vicarious racing thrills :)
I'd love to take it on, but I really can't afford to at the moment.
So $15K body work
I'm calling $10K for trans by the time you put in a LSD and re-gear it. Maybe a new ring & pinion?
$15-20 on the engine
Roll Cage $2k
Suspension $2k
I reckon $70 k minimum on track and vaguely competitive......
What do you reckon chaps?
Bodywork wold be less for a race build. Agree on the other cost, but I think would be competitive not vaguely competitive for that investment.
So who's gunna pull the pin?
Well probably not me....!
But which would you choose, Wayne's LHD that has a 'done' body, cage & suspension but still needs mechanical, or this one in RHD which needs everything but has the steering wheel on the 'right' side?
Now Sold....Ry-Anne....another car????
Very good value for Aus delivered IMHO - even with the required work
Try this one for an Sb candidate.
Less wok required imho.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...e-project.html
The Aussie delivered T was a very cheap car, even with the required work.
I agree, $70k is very reasonable for a race car build, especially RHD. Engine, gearbox, suspension cage etc, is minimum $35k. Finding a RHD car is difficult under $40k, no matter the condition.
What is the general feeling on how much less a left hand drive Sb 911 would be worth compared to a right hand drive in the same spec and condition? $ 10 K or more?
I am trying to get my head around what the starting price on a base left hand drive would need to be to make it a worthwile excercise assuming the base car needs no body work, but a full suspension, engine and gearbox rebuild on which I agree with Matt at $35 - 40 K.
Rob
Geez everyone's gone quiet.......I think for a race car the LHD thing is not such a big issue but I think most people would want to pay less for a LHD car.
My guess is $5-$10K
That said, its a race car and cost never equals worth!!
Not so much quiet but contemplating Rob's question. I think that once done int a race car, and assuming everything is done to make it a competitive car, the issue of LHD v RHD becomes a non issue. In fact there is plenty of arguments to say the LHD would be better balance as the cars we designed to be this way so cross weights are better and seating/pedal position is better.
I don't think there would even be $5K in it.
As Cam rightly says, the cost never equals the worth. I know roughly what I spent on mine, not counting the change from Nc to Sb, and I would never see that again. Not that I care!!
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/vie...p?f=21&t=33336
WAY under build cost - and, from a quick peruse, it looks like going back to stock calipers might be the only change needed for compliance with Sb rules.
It looks like Waye's 69er may have sold, anyone know who it went to or any details?
Gentleman,
I am considering letting the Blue car go to a new home. If there is any interest out there you can email me at timgt3@hotmail.com
Price would be $75k firm, although I may entertain some interesting partial trades or some adjustments to some suspension parts that could adjust the price.
Email me for a spec sheet if your interested.
Cheers
And a 67S for the SWB fans:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...Liter-Race-Car
Only 40 number away from my car!!
Tim sorry to hear you are selling the blue beast. Will be like losing a member of the family!!!
And something a little different to tow it with:
http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/...7/Default.aspx
thats cool
69E on early s
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...E-in-Dallas-TX
Just a little spec update on the Blue 69 Group SB car in case any one is fired up after the weekend!!
Spec Sheet for 1969 911T race car
Magnessium Case : Closed and Honed by Kim Baker - Line Bored, thread inserts, Oil Bypass
Pistons: JE 10:1 81 mm, Barrels, Carillo rods with ARP bolts
Cams: GE 60 - Dougherty Cams
Heads: S Spec, 45 mm intake, 38 mm exhaust by EBS, titanium retainers
Engine Mounts: Semi solid Wevo
Flywheel: Lightweight Fidenza
Gearbox: 901, fully rebuilt by Michael Newton, with Modena LSD
Suspension: Poly bushes all round (elephant)
Brakes: Alloy S
Shifter: Wevo 901
Fuel System: 40mm Webers just rebuilt
Brian Weston is considering selling his Sc car, the 2.7 74 Carrera -would be very competitive I would have thought.
What a ripper.
Chuck a cage in it and drive it like you stole it!!!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...r-no-rust.html
Great colour!
This is for sale. I swear to God; Webster, Curnick, Prichard and Begg, that if I win the lotto I'm buying this and fronting up at Phillip Island...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9FtZ...yer_embedded#!
http://www.motorsportretro.com/2012/...rsche-904-gts/
Looks great, sounds great, not sure why driver has goggles on his helmet ?
Wrong linky ..... :eek:
Silver rhd 69e
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3637193.htm
Looks quite tidy in the pics
I am aware of a 2.0E that might be coming up in regional Victoria - it does not have the original motor though. Not sure of the current owner's price expectations.
I still have my 1969E matching numbers Irish Green car. Could be an easy roll cage install and suspension tweak :)
and another - http://www.thegallerydenver.com/index.cfm/0/0/22/1546
not sure about the purple headlight covers though!
Gentleman,
I have another business venture up here in white shoe land. As a result I would like to move one of the race cars.
I am not really concerned if its the Blue 2.0 Sb car or the White Carrera3.0 Sc car.
If anyone know of anyone interested I have the Blue on on the market at $75K and would look at offers and Say $65K for the White car.
Please pass on to anyone you know who might be interested.
Thanks
Tim
Price Drop on the Blue Car $70K Includes two sets of wheels, zero hours on fresh motor, G/box and cv's just serviced...
You know you want it!!!!!
Tim,
Surely, from the pic it worth a fair bit more (for being in front of car #50).
He must have reversed that image in photochop...
On second thought, maybe I'm about to lap him?
Wish I had a stray $70k...
I Knew that photo would get some comments!!!
This is nice:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...age-Racing-911
Seems everything that comes out of this shop is super well done.
Driving position seems odd...nice car though :)
Driving lights .... c'mon !
+1 driving position.
There's this http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/warre...ner/1002511858
I spoke to the guy a couple of years ago hoping to buy the rust repair panels he stashed for it. If you can get it to the east coast, it could be a viable left hooker Sb car... I'll be honest and say I'm tempted, but I just can't come up with spare coin at the moment :(
Timp... wanna go halves ;)
John,
If I could move the blue car I'd be on it like a cheap suit!
Tim,
Surely to get it to Sb spec would cost more than 70K?
Depends how much you are prepared to do yourself as opposed to getting done professionally.
I think it could be a nice three year project.
Some fun in the garage in the spare time. An excuse for a beer and banging some sheet metal!!!
It's apparently been sold...
C'mon, hands up...
Not Me!!!!
Can I just say...
what RC ?
oh, it wasn't me !
Not me either, just trying to add to the tension...
I had money on AB!
All right you grubs, who's the "well known Sydney historic racer"? ;)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/new-z...1-sale-wa.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item4ab80b0124
cool.
by the way, i'm glad the seller pointed out that 8 comes after 1 through 7...
Yes very cool, love the patina.
Wonder what it will sell for?
Thanks RC I was trying to keep that one quiet !
Is anyone going to admit buying the WA car last week? :D
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Now down to $65K
Zero hours on fresh engine
rebuilt shocks
2 sets of wheels.
NOTHING TO SPEND, just go racing!
Nice photos Tim... I'm not in the market by the way!
or you could always start from this low base...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1969-Pors...ht_1868wt_1111
No interest out there?
One for the RHD fans: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3637193.htm
Now this is cool. Sb with some work or maybe Group T close to as is?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ar-Race-Career
Gee, Group T Porsche Car, wouldn't that get some scrutiny ..... a brave man that wants to run that ! Oh and its yellow..
I like it though!
Easy enough to bring back to S. So long as it is S spec, you don't need to declare that it has history!
have another guy looking for a car to either turn into a Group Sb car or one that already is. If you know of one, LOCALLY! then let me know.
Alex, sent you a text about one I know of.
Tim, can you get me some pics and details re pricing etc. That will flush out how serious he is about it! Thanks!
As found by Phil Baskett.
http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1...pe--c-1108.htm
Good to see another Alfa owner looking at a 911!!!
Sorry Phil!
I'm starting to get the feeling that Sb is going to be a little more "German" over the next couple of years !..... I really should get myself one.......
shhhhh!! I'll be shunned by my Alfa mates (CWB, if you read this!)
Actually, it's Sb I would love to move across to, and it would be great to do it in an early Porsche. A few stars would need to align, but it is do-able.....It is a shame they could not align before Tim's car sold :rolleyes:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...cing-Coupe-902
Seen this car in the flesh. Sorry to hear that it has to be sold due to health. Could be a good thing in Sb, except that you would be against 2.0 litre 911's. Would be interesting to see how it would go. I wonder if it could compete in the 1300cc-1600cc class?
Wow, that thing is clean.
It only has a 1.0mm overbore (1.5mm allowed) so it would run in the 1300-1600cc class.
The 911R front guards are probably fibreglass, otherwise can't see much to change.
I think that it would be quite competitive in that class. Outright Sb you would struggle, but if you look at what you are up against, Midgets and Sprites, you should do OK!
That's a lovely car!
So, in a big circle; was there a 914/4 built in '69? :D Or maybe I should take a closer look at the 69 912 on eBay?
The Midget/Sprite crowd run in under 1300 (Sba). The 912 would be in 1300-1600 (Sbb). Andre's Datsun is in this class, but he is shortly moving to a 2.0 litre motor so will end up in Sbc. Don't know what else is in Sbb - Lancias??
Ps. Laurie's TVR is looking like the outright Sb to beat.
Hmmm, looked again and there doesn't appear to be a Sbb only Sba and Sbc?
John - there is one 914/4 currently running in Sb. From memory it's a 70 but they have given it a Sb logbook. I think you might be stuck with cis in a teener whereas a 912 can probably run carbs.
There is a 1300-1600 class, running the Lotus Elan, Datsun Fairlady & Lancia Fulvia. Not the most competitive class (as in not that many cars competing) but still, there is competition.
http://www.groupsracing.org.au/Docum...ums%202011.pdf
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nota Fang...
The Nota fang was possibly the uggliest car made, Sadly its based on a mini....
Must check my lottery ticket I bought yesterday.
But then I'd be starting in regularity anyway!
Some more good info here on Bob's blog...http://werkcrew.com/?p=3902
From one P . GIRT!
http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...sche_911e.html
RHD too!
My Sc car is now on the market.....hopefully I'll be hunting for an Sb car in the not too distant future :cool:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...item2c68b297c8
Just ignore all of the WOW!!!'s in the ad...
mmmm... interesting, and it's a SWB, which I love.
The word wow comes to mind.
However you'd need to spend a fair amount to make it compliant for SB wouldn't you? On the other hand I could terrorise regularity with it!
So say I bought a targa; lets say a 68 S soft window which the rear zips out..., I know I can't just cut the windscreen and targa hoop off, but do I have to have glass in the frame? :cool:
Glass out and fit a super small plexi shield, say a respectable 4 inches tall. 900kg's :cool:
I reckon you'd only need 1 blade on a 6" grinder to do it too!
"For open/roadster Group Sa and Sb cars the windscreens may be removed in accordance with 3.1.2. "
"3.1.2 Philosophy: The express purpose of these regulations is to ensure that vehicles in the various groups compete in a condition, mechanically and visually, compatible with the period of racing being portrayed. “Updating” in whatever form is not permitted. CAMS reserves the right to reject any vehicle which it considers not within the spirit of these regulations. Vehicles must conform with the appropriate group date specification in concept and in detail and which must represent one point in time in the vehicle’s history. Where any conflict exists between the requirements of current Historic regulations or the relevant period regulations, and the original period specification of the particular vehicle, the latter will take precedence except where:
• components in a vehicle’s original period specification have been deemed to be unsafe for use in current historic competition;
• components not in compliance with the relevant period regulations have been the basis for the vehicle’s exclusion from a period event; or
• a substitution of component/s has been approved.
The following evidence (given in order of priority) may be accepted to prove period specification:
(i) Manufacturer’s specifications as evidenced by manufacturer’s handbook, workshop manual or spare parts list, sales brochures or magazine articles all of which must have been published in period.
(ii) Any document, drawing, sketch or specification produced in period, which demonstrates that a manufacturer’s specification was varied in a period competition event. Specifications in magazines and periodicals of the period should desirably come from at least two sources.
(iii) Reports from recognised experts who have inspected the car.
(iv) Of lesser value will be:
(a) Books and magazine articles written out of period by reputable authors.
(b) Recent letters or statutory declarations by manufacturers, mechanics, engineers, designers, drivers and
team members of the period.
Where acceptable evidence of a car’s actual period competition specification is not available reliance may be
placed on any FIA or CAMS recognition documents published in period for the relevant vehicle model.
For Historic Groups other than Jb, Kb, Lc, S and N, a full history of the ownership and competition record of each vehicle should be provided to support any request for historic classification. This “line of history” should
identify a continual chain of ownership and competition history dating from the manufacture of the vehicle until the present time. The “line of history” confirming the vehicle’s provenance must follow the progressive history of the vehicle as an identifiable entity regardless of the possible replacement of any or, over time, all of the vehicle’s component parts. Component parts which have been discarded or set aside, including a replaced chassis frame or body unit will not retain any intrinsic element of the “line of history” of the subject vehicle. Where a chassis or body unit has been replaced this will normally be noted in the Certificate of Description."
I think you can remove the screen, but would want it in writing before I busted out the angle grinder.
I imagine all the Brit car drivers would cry foul...? Probably some German drivers also? ;)
Ah, the tyranny of choice...
This has been a long and never fully answered question of many.
I would think that all it would take would be a nice CAMS official when building it to give you an interpretation of the rules, and get it in writing.
Realistically, if you could cut the screen (even leave the Targa bar) you would pick up so much speed with the reduced drag. Rigidity would be the only concern, but that can be overcome with a good cage.
Check out this car - the interior is something else!
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...ngId=100579631
customised in the 70's perhaps?
This one is pretty close to Sb specs if it does not have fibreglass panels. Some lights, window winders, a few instruments and it should be pretty close to logbookable.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230864910...84.m1423.l2649
Rob
Similar car and not as much to do.
http://bit.ly/R1k8OB
Porsche : 911 2 Litre 1966 Porsche 2 Litre ALL METAL Race Car Roll Cage Sparco Seats SCCA Carbon Fiber
Fortune favours the brave:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...item2ec280ca91
more keep appearing for those that are prepared to get a LHD car!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1373218
Would it be possible to run 12.5:1 compression on a single plug motor even with race fuel as the ad on the samba claims ?
Rob
Rob,
I think the quick 2.7's are running those levels.
Also, 12.5:1 pistons doesn't necessarily mean 12.5:1 compression. Heads and cylinder spacing affect actual comp ratios. From memory, high overlap cams can also reduce effective/dynamic comp ratios too.
Need the opinion of a mechanic to be 100% sure what could be achieved. At that higher compression though it would not be pump fuel here in Australia.
I'll hand the answer over to more qualified people!
Rob
Avgas and super high compression..... MG boys are going to love you !
At least the MG boys can give you a top up if you run low - they all seem to use the stuff...
I was amused at Wakefield watching one avgas-fuelled MG being topped up with octane booster!
wow - someone should grab this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3348621185.html
sell the 915 to fund a 901 - should come out pretty even. source a cheap 901 in the US to come back with the car.
swap the p+c's to 2.0 litre and a few f/g panels for steel - done
coming out of the woodwork - someone must know Sb Porsche's are on the rise in Australia!
No go - avgas is just too much hassle. BP 98 or bust.
Rob
does anyone have a link to or a copy of the regs that the car needs to comply with?
All car regs can be found here:
http://www.cams.com.au/en/Sport/Hist...s/Group-S.aspx
And Section 3.5 from here: http://www.camsmanual.com.au/08_historic.asp
So boys, my first post! I'm spending an inordinate amount of time researching the late 60's 911's to find a car to replace the MG. What does the group think of the Pelican Parts car which Ryan provided the link for? Or am I better off with Wayne's offer?
There are heaps of cars around. Always the risk from buying overseas. There are some cars here that would suit perfectly. I have a 69E road car that could easily convert into an Sb car - small plug!
Honestly, buy the best car you can up front.
Richard
I have looked into the craiglist car and the one on Pelican that Ryan posted. Both seem like good honest cars, but both need a correct 2.0 motor for a start.
Also seriously considered buying Wayne's car, but whenever I get ready to pull the trigger I get cold feet because of the left hand drive scenario. At the end of the day the project would probably be a 60k + "investment" and I would hate to have regrets at the end. Possibly being foolish because not witstanding Alex's comment that there are heaps of cars around, insisting on right hand drive is holding me back from building an Sb 911.
Rob
Thanks guys. I understand what you mean Rob regarding LHD vs RHD. At some level though, i'm perhaps less concerned if it's a left hooker from a resale perspective, given the amount of interest and demand in these cars as race cars. It may be somewhat less usable as a daily driver - i'm going to struggle to swipe my pass in the underground parking at work!! But then on club plates, it's unlikely i'd be driving it daily anyway!! My mechanic did suggest that i go the whole hog and pick up a second hand GT3 Cup car and have some fun in a different class - but i'd miss racing against you guys!! See you at SMP on Thursday...
Well two more sleeps till I get my Sb car ........... My wife and kids don't care so hoping one of you guys care ! Lol..... Picking up Tim's Sb 69T on Friday.......
Not Mine Paul... its yours!!!
Ryan,
The modified livery will all be released in 2013 !.......Webster and I are convinced that "vinyl wraping" the bumpers is the go !..... Stay tuned to see how we both stuff it up .....
Another one of Wayne's for sale - http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...0&sort=default
having read the regs for sb as per posted links it would appear that suspension and pickup points need to remain standard
so where would that leave raised spindles and adjustable rear spring plates?
mmmm excellent question for he Sb boys!
Tim, How quickly you have moved on to the big leagues of Sc!
As to the questions:
1. raised spindles - no. is a geometry change and gives a perf advantage by eliminating bump steer. that said, i doubt you can get the car low enough (with 60 series tyres) to really need them. they also often have extra camber built in which you will likely not be able to utilise.
2. adjustable rear spring plates - dunno, it probably depends on the type. e.g. i doubt the elephant racing units would be permitted. however, you might be ok with the early porsche versions as they don't change the geometry (they do speed up setting the rear ride height). best check with the scrutineer that will be log booking your car.
Does this mean you have bought a car? Pics? Details?
Doesn't it say it pretty clearly....
"suspension and pickup points need to remain standard"
Dame it !............... those triple adjustable dual shock, aux. canister Ohlins and dual A arm set up is probably not legal then... Better take em out then !
No that's what Ryan has Paul ....
a 356 - technically an Sb car. How about the claim on the hp! Optimistic or just USA Hp?!
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/po...54551329ss.htm
I think its possible Alex.... but I'm not sure if the mods to get it there would be in the spirit of the sb rules. In really simple terms what can you do, not do?
Andy - have you still got your "Unique" rear suspension... while we are on the subject of suspension...?
I know there is one being built for Sa.
This one needs a little finishing off: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1403238
Come join the 69E club:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ace-Street-car
http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find...lCarID=1867853
nice! change bumpers and gearbox - done!
would this be a good starting point for an Sb engine
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...gine-on-webers
change the crank and rods, add some hi comp pistons and barrels, your choice of cams and you have the advantage of the stiffer later model 7R crankcase with the later 2.2 to 2.7 heads and valves that flow more than the 2.0 heads
Unfortunately, this engine can't be used under the current rules. It's one of the things that can make building an sb car pretty tough. For a 69 car finding a mag case in good condition as a base can be tough and expensive!
Vortex, I'm currently right in the middle of building an SB 2.0 engine, the rules are very specific on engine case type e.g 901/03 which if I recall it's a 1R or 2R case which need a bit of work to get to a spec for a race engine ! CAMS have a specific build sheet for an SB 911..... Plenty of 2.2 & 2.4 cases available but not aloud under the rules.....
so 7r case's are not allowed but what about 2.2 to 2.7 cylinder heads [911 xxx xxx casting numbers] or do they have to be 2.0 cylinder heads with a 901 casting number?
whilst not as visible as the crankcase number a motivated scruitineer could still see the number on the bottom lh corner of the cylinder head
I had a discussion with Bruce Richards at the last Tasman challenge. His view is that CAMS want to attract historic competitors and not make it uneccesarily difficult for potential entrants to front up. In his opinion, if a case is the same as a correctly numbered case apart from the numbers, he sees no issue with it being used. This rules out a 7R case, but is there any difference between the 68 -69 mag cases and the latter ones up to a 5R apart from the early cases not having a layshaft bearing insert, which would preclude their use?
As far as heads go, valves and porting are free, so would there be any advantage to using 2.2 or 2.4 heads assuming that for a race motor the heads are going to be redone anyway?
Rob
I contacted the cams head office on this matter and was refered to the followin passage from the group s regs
Engine: Cylinder block and head must be original, or a CAMS-approved alternative. Internal components of
the engine are free save that the crankshaft stroke must be original. The cylinder bore may be increased by a
maximum of 1.5mm beyond original dimensions. Cylinder head/s may be modified provided such modification
is effected only by the removal of metal
and also
Modifications may be made in accordance with the freedoms outlined in these and the group specific
regulations. Where the regulations are silent on an issue, it shall be deemed that no modification from
the standard specification is permitted, except where the specific modification is defined on the approved
Specification Sheet.
All vehicles must comply with the CAMS Specification Sheet for the model in question. Cars must also
comply with the period specifications supplied by the manufacturer and identified by the body numbers and
other vehicle identifying features created by that manufacturer for the model variant (variations to this may
be considered by application to the HPBEC). CAMS reserve the right to alter specification sheets at any time, if
new or different information becomes available.
if the component is no longer available then you can apply for a product substitution, if still available regardless of price then original component with original
casting number [vehicle identifying feature] must be used
as 2.2 to 2.4 heads have a lower combustion chamber roof then they dont comply to either section
in summary it would appear that you need to use 2.0 crankcase and cylinder heads so the 2.7 7r engine is not suitable on all counts
not a Porsche but Sb eligible!!
http://bringatrailer.com/2013/01/28/...vintage-racer/
Just take off the stickers and fog lights ....
nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.paul-stephens.com/Porsche...ly-Car/car4186
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...item41706b9ad0
And yet another. Many options out there for prospective Sb'ers.
Rob
I need to stop visiting this thread until my current car sells, it's depressing me.
What are you selling Phil?
The Alfetta that finished right behind you at Winton Festival of Speed last year, and regularly behind Alex.....if you cant beat 'em!
A cheaper option for somebody?
http://www.my105.com/listingdetails....=9582&latest=1
Rob
How about building a smokin' four-banger?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PORSCHE-9...#ht_600wt_1190
Strangely John , I think I have nearly every thing except engine and box to finish this car .....
Big project! Would love to see some more detailed photos.
Needs a big phat Type4 Raby motor ;)
Group S allows stock bore + 1.5mm. No change to stock stroke.
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You first!
been a while - http://cprclassic.com/images/carsfor...pe/images.html
Love it!
Probably as close to an Sb ready car out there - pity the MFI is not there.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-race-car.html
Rob
Here's one local.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/porsche-9...d670acb&_uhb=1
Gone quiet in here - cars getting thin on the ground?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/4135725323.html
Reasonably priced and able to be logged Sb without any huge expense as the engine and gearbox are correct.
Rob
For those of you tinkering with the idea of a 912, here you go.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=331083134384
Left hooker - handles better …. Volksie engine = handles better…… But there is no substitute for Hp right Ryan
Good colour !
I'd roll in that !
Dont like the oil cooler set up but otherwise looks like good bang for your buck.
A slightly heavier 1969 candidate:
and its raced at Lemons!
http://bringatrailer.com/2013/12/18/...adow-race-car/
might need some bigger anti roll bars.......