FS: @eBay - '73 'S' . . .

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01-15-2014, 06:13 PM
LongRanger

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FS: @eBay - '73 'S' . . .

VIN = 9113300500
Eng# = 6339070
Trans# ?

. . . Very nice original early 911S. There is documented detailed work the previous owner had done at Zuffenhausen Motors in Scottsdale including engine, brakes, and other miscellaneous work. The car runs and drives excellent. The Becker Mexico radio does not work along with the speedometer. The full history or mileage on the car is not known. The Odometer reads 63353 miles. The previous owner had information the car came from the Monterey area of California. The under carriage is in great original condition. The paint is great except for some rock chips and minor door dings. It had a careful repaint of the original color at some time. Door jambs, inside of trunk etc. in great condition. Door gaskets and other rubber in great condition. It has some minor oil drips. Chrome and bright trim in excellent condition. Carpet, leather, door pockets and interior all in excellent condition. No rust is evident any where, the original undercoating is in very good condition. It has stainless steel heat exchangers and muffler. This is an excellent original condition early 911S . . .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/111257813869

More, here --- see post #807 . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...or-Sale/page81

(Not mine)
01-16-2014, 06:14 AM
nickb4

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Originally Posted by LongRanger

More, here --- see post #807. . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...or-Sale/page81

As noted by Eminence Gris in that post (and seen if you look at the above COA) this car is a converted Sportomatic.
01-16-2014, 09:05 AM
kitesurfer

I would be interested to know everyone's thoughts on how this affects the value?
01-16-2014, 09:10 AM
nickb4

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Originally Posted by kitesurfer

I would be interested to know everyone's thoughts on how this affects the value?

Here is a very recent real life example on a '73S. Wonderful car, Sporto conversion:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=park+place
01-23-2014, 05:08 PM
nickb4

Auction ended. Sold for $105,300
01-23-2014, 05:42 PM
two dot

What are the collective thoughts on this sale???
01-23-2014, 08:11 PM
Michael Meldrum

I think the seller did well since it was converted sportmatic.
01-23-2014, 10:04 PM
LongRanger

That Numbers Thing

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Originally Posted by two dot

. . . thoughts on this sale??? . . .

There seems to be an odd sorta schizophrenia about Sportos . . .

On the one hand --- as cool as the concept may sound . . . 'semi-automatic' gear changes are not exactly the 'Enthusiasts' Choice' so . . . the audience for these cars --- although passionate . . . tends to be smaller

On the other hand --- many/most of these cars 've had 5-speeds swapped-in --- decades ago. Which was probably the best/only way to keep these cars running, at one time. Sportos have always posed a bit of a logistical challenge

But, then again --- so has MFI . . . and un-galvanized bodywork . . . and decades of use/personalization/carelessness/etc

Oddly enough, I believe that it's that sheer strangeness of the Early 911 that's a big part it's attraction, these days. So much so that Sporto by itself isn't such an issue, any more. And the people who actually own/use these cars seem to enjoy them as much as anyone. And the cars are pretty special, too --- and rare . . . something that a future market may eventually come to realize

Anyway, The Real Problem --- IMO . . . is That Numbers Thing

It's not that people don't appreciate the intricacies/novelty/weirdness of the Sportomatic transmission, so much. Most just don't really want to have to put-up w/ it --- and didn't . . . especially decades ago --- before the 'Net and Pelican/The Registry/etc . . . and the current run-up in values. So? --- in-and-of-itself . . . I don't think that Sporto --- or a 5-speed swap . . . is such a Big Deal

What is a A Very Big Deal is that --- in almost every case where the Sporto got pulled . . . it got tossed . . .

. . . which means that any converted Sporto falls into the problematic category 'missing original transmission'

I know of exactly ONE case where the Owner had the presence of mind/opportunity/resources/sheer frickin' luck --- to acquire the original Sporto . . . then package it w/ the car . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-to-Jo-Siffert

. . . and look how that turned-out

So. Regarding this blue '73 --- all other factors being equal . . . I would ask what price this car might've brought if the Kardex Sporto were sitting next to the vehicle, boxed/palletted . . . working --- or not?

Or, to put it another way . . .

The issue w/ this car is not that the Sporto was ever there . . .

. . . it's that it's NOT there now . . .

. . . and --- more-than-likely . . . will never be
01-06-2019, 06:30 AM
LongRanger

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9113300500

Now, here . . .
https://www.europeancollectibles.com...che-911s-coupe

'. . . Originally delivered in Gemini Blue Metallic with Black leather upholstery. Complete window out repaint in 2016. Original interior with factory sport seats in great condition. Fuch alloy rims with new 185/70VR15 XWX Michelin tires. The engine was completely rebuilt by Aase Motors in September of 2015 $19,293 was spent. 915 manual 5-speed transmission that shifts perfectly. Truly a phenomenal 1973 911S to drive!

Optional equipment includes US equipment, option group G03, factory sport seats- Left & Right, additional cooling coil, raised steering wheel hub, Becker Mexico AM/FM radio, manual antenna with front loudspeaker & noise suppression & engine compartment light. Complete with Certificate of Authenticity, jack, and toolkit. Great opportunity to get the last of the early 911S Coupes in a remarkable color combination . . .'

(Not mine)

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01-07-2019, 04:23 AM
mfitton

Guess I would stay away from European Collectables, no mention of the sporto and no picture of the COA.
01-07-2019, 06:41 PM
911TES

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Originally Posted by mfitton

Guess I would stay away from European Collectables, no mention of the sporto and no picture of the COA.

Agree - error of deliberate omission.
01-07-2019, 08:53 PM
72targa

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfitton

Guess I would stay away from European Collectables, no mention of the sporto and no picture of the COA.

COA is posted indicating Sportomatic...
01-08-2019, 04:15 AM
mfitton

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Originally Posted by 72targa

COA is posted indicating Sportomatic...

Wasn't in their original ad, must have just added it.
01-08-2019, 03:55 PM
DOUGS73E

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LongRanger

Now, here . . .
https://www.europeancollectibles.com...che-911s-coupe

Sporto explains price:

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01-08-2019, 07:45 PM
72targa

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfitton

Wasn't in their original ad, must have just added it.

Had a nice chat with their staff. They're happy to discuss the car and answer any questions about it.
01-10-2019, 04:43 AM
Frank Beck

Give me a break

Who's kidding who?

I can't remember the last time I saw an ad that was objective and completely honest. Sellers these days (always?) brush with rose-colored glasses. No one pays 100k+ for anything without doing their due diligence so the goal for most advertisers is to get the phone to ring.

A hundred bucks to any of you who can show me an online dating ad where a candidate has displayed a photo of their ginormous Australia-shaped birthmark or cheerfully volunteers that they have an STD.
01-10-2019, 06:46 AM
Arne

Also interesting to note that the original flat-6 wheels have been replaced by a set of 7" wide. Someone had a need for '73 date coded 6" wheels?
10-04-2019, 03:56 PM
DOUGS73E

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FS: @PCAR Market - 1973 911S Coupe

Seller: Jim Bouzaglou(?) Aftermarket dash pad but still looks nice!
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PCAR Market Website Auction
1973 Porsche 2.4L MFI 911S Coupe
VIN: 9113300500
Engine: 6339070
Trans: 632061
Color: Gemini Blue Metallic/Black Leather
Mileage: 66,156 (indicated)
Auction Estimate: -
Sold for: NO SALE (Highest Bid: US$80,100)

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PCAR Market Description:

Up for auction is this 1973 Porsche 911 S Coupe. Of all 911s, the desirable ”S” coupes are among the most collectible for their exhilarating driving characteristics, advanced engineering, and iconic styling. This 911 S boasts a recent engine and transmission rebuild, unique color, and an extensive list of factory options. Receiving an invitation to be shown at the Werks reunion in Monterey, CA, it is clear that this 911 is a stand out among other models. It is now being offered out of California with 66k miles showing on the odometer.

Just two years ago, this 911 S was professionally repainted in its original color of Gemini Blue Metallic by Kudensport based out of Oxnard, CA. The car is said to be in exceptional cosmetic condition with only one noteworthy chip present near the gas cap. The seller states that there is no rust present and all panels are original to the car. The factory set of 15 x 7” alloy Fuchs wheels are stated to be flawless with new Michelin tires currently mounted.

Inside, you will find a black leather interior that has been completely refinished to factory specification by a well-known Porsche shop in Phoenix, AZ. Overall, it remains in excellent condition and all electronics are stated to be in working order. From the factory, this 911 S was ordered with an additional cooling coil, raised steering wheel hub, Becker cassette head unit, manual antenna, front loudspeaker with noise suppression, sunroof delete, and an engine compartment light.

The period correct 2.4L fuel-injected engine is connected a 5-speed manual transmission (replacing the original Sportomatic) that delivers power to the rear wheels. Less than 2500 miles ago, a full engine rebuild was performed by Aase Motors, bringing this 911 to excellent running condition. The transmission was also re-configured to a smooth 5-speed manual from its factory sportomatic set up. Power was bumped to approximately 220HP and 160 lb-ft of torque. Receipts of all work performed will be included in the photo gallery. Equipped with Bilstein shocks and new bushings, the ride quality and handling is heavily increased on this 911. Overall, this example is stated to be in excellent running condition.

The sale will include a certificate of authenticity, receipts of work performed, tools, and keys.
03-04-2020, 03:58 PM
DOUGS73E

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FS: @PCA Classifieds - 1973 911S Coupe - Gemini Blue

Now on PCA Classifieds . . .

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07-09-2020, 05:09 PM
DOUGS73E

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Now at Porsche South Bay for US$149,911

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Dealer Description:

Porsche South Bay is thrilled to offer this exceptional 1973 Porsche 911 S coupe finished in Gemini Blue Metallic over Black Leather Sport Seats. This S Coupe benefits from a comprehensive mechanical service and complete engine rebuild by noted marque specialists Aase motors.