CoA, Auslieferungsbescheinigung, Geburtsurkunde, Kardex

[dirk07]

I had always been very critical, what was written in the CoA that had been posted. Sometimes it appeared that CoA lists what the pictures show or what the owner claimed to be factory delivered options.

Now, that Porsche Deutschland offers the Auslieferungsbescheinigung for less than the former Geburtsurkunde, I order one for a car that came with a CoA.

I had to provide Porsche with the VIN, engine and trans number and pictures of the car from all corners and pictures that show the three numbers clearly.

The car was already discussed here:

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ferrerid=29735



the result:there are only minor additional informations in the Auslieferungsbescheinigung
factory AC US 1973, tinted glass, date of bill, dealer
AC+glass might been included in option group G03

[beh911]

Thanks for posting this.

So this Auslieferungsbescheinigung is based on what exactly?
How is it different from a CoA, other than format?
Why is there an additional like this?

[72targa]

From the Porsche site...

PDF roughly translated...

Dear Sir or Madam,
For your classic Porsche until model year 1993 we offer you the Porsche delivery certificate. This documents the original state of delivery of your vehicle with the vehicle identification number (FIN) you have specified.
Important details such as date of invoice, engine and gearbox type incl. The aggregate numbers after adjustment, exterior color, interior fittings and if necessary individual equipment are listed in the delivery certificate. ,

The following documents are required for the creation of a delivery certificate:
1. A fully completed and signed by the owner application form.
2. A proof of ownership * in the form of a German registration certificate Part I or Part II, from which the applicant emerges as the owner, or a copy of a legally valid purchase contract (name of the vehicle owner and applicant must match) in connection with the registration document of the previous owner. It is important that the documents are unambiguously legible.
3. Pictures documenting the current state of the vehicle from all four perspectives (front, rear, left and right sides) as well as pictures of the vehicle identification number and the aggregate number (ie engine and gearbox number) ,
The production of the delivery certificate is associated with a lump sum of 166.60 € (including VAT).
Please note that incomplete applications can not be processed. It is important that all documents must be unequivocally legible.
In order to ensure a complete review, we reserve the right to request further documents and images, if necessary.
The delivery certificate only reflects the original delivery condition after the production run. The originality of the documented vehicle is not confirmed by us.

I hereby agree with the above conditions for the creation of a delivery certificate.
Place, date, signature ____________________________
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* Proof of ownership (sales contract) must have the following contents: Personal data of seller and buyer (address, first name and name), vehicle identification number, purchase price, possible accident damage, date, signature of both parties.

Porsche Contact Fax: +49 (0) 800 356 0 912
PO Box 120144 Telephone: +49 (0) 800 356 0 911
10591 Berlin Email: contact@porsche.de
Application form for a delivery certificate
Vehicle identification number
Engine number: Gearbox number:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I authorize Porsche Deutschland GmbH to prepare a delivery certificate for this
my property, above mentioned Porsche vehicle. Please send the document to the following address:
□ Mr. □ Woman □ Company: __________________________________________________ __________________________
First name / name / Attn. __________________________________________________ _________________________
Street, Nr. __________________________________________________ _________________________
Postcode / town __________________________________________________ _________________________
Telephone __________________________________________________ _________________________
E-mail address __________________________________________________ _________________________
I am aware that Porsche Deutschland GmbH charges a processing fee of € 166.60 (including VAT)
provides.
As a sign of my agreement with this cost regulation, I send you this letter back legally binding.
To ensure a short processing time and to simplify the processing, I will pay the amount of 166.60 € (incl.
VAT) after receiving the verification number as soon as possible.
Please enclose proof of ownership and images as per page 1 to the application form.
Please note that incomplete applications can not be processed!

Note on the editing process:
1. You send us the application form, completed in full and signed, along with all necessary documents.
2. After successful examination of the application, you will receive from us the corresponding bank details and a verification number (via e-mail,
Post), which you please specify as purpose in your transfer.
3. Once the amount has been fully credited to our account, the document will be promptly created and sent to you by registered mail.
Consent to the use of data: I would like to be informed about news from Porsche in the future. Therefore, I agree that mine here
given data in one of the Dr. med. Ing. H.c. F. Porsche AG managed central database to be stored. I also agree
that the Dr. Ing. H.c. F. Porsche AG, Porsche Deutschland GmbH, Porsche Financial Services GmbH and the responsible Porsche Center as well as - in
whose name and order - commissioned service providers merge this data with other data from the Porsche Group. I am beyond that
agrees that the aforementioned companies this data for individual customer and prospective customer care, for surveys on customer satisfaction
and use information about vehicles and vehicle-related services of Porsche and me for these purposes by mail
can contact.
I also agree that
the phone number (s) I have specified
the e-mail address (s) you gave me
used by the companies mentioned to contact me for the purposes listed.
Once I have given my consent to Porsche Deutschland GmbH, Porschestr. 1,
74321 Bietigheim-Bissingen revoked - a short message by mail or pd.datenschutz@porsche.de is enough.
Place, date, signature

[davep]

Dirk, thanks very much for posting all this information. It is quite instructive. Thankfully a bit more detail with the option codes and descriptions together.
Dave

[majordad]

But still no more than a COA, well not that much anyway. It does not state the selling dealer or the first owner, I wonder if Porsche AG would have the name of 1970s owners and choose not to release under some imagined Data Protection excuse ?

[beh911]

I'll do you one better Peter. Here is a translated PDF of the German document.

Still doesn't answer why they have this offering.

Auslieferungsbescheinigung.de.en.pdf

[72targa]

It may not be much different functionally but if it is consistently accurate it would definitely be more valuable than the US document in my book...

[Cal]

Is this only available to ROW cars....is it available to North American owners as well?

[911T1971]

The "COA"' given out by North America agency used to be called "Zertifikat" by ROW agencies, later "Geburtsurkunde" and/or "Auslieferungsbescheinigung".
The source of what from they write (Kardex and factory built sheets) is for all the same, but the result differs, including eventual faults when interpreting.

[tomster]

The Auslieferungsbescheinigung of Porsche Germany is by no means more accurate than a CoA. Mine was corrected twice...