I have CN 36's on my 67S and P6000 on my 73S. My 73 is my autobahn cruiser and my 67 is my point and squirt car. I like both set ups but kind of wish I had CN 36 on the 73 as well.
I have CN 36's on my 67S and P6000 on my 73S. My 73 is my autobahn cruiser and my 67 is my point and squirt car. I like both set ups but kind of wish I had CN 36 on the 73 as well.
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I just did some fantastic Oregon back road driving for 3 days with the PNW Rgruppe guys and the CN36's were amazing.
72S, 72T now ST
Because I wanted to try them (I've never had a sticky tire before) I just installed a set of the Avon CR6ZZ. I was on the Vredesteins prior. Night and day. It isn't just the grip, it is the stability and confidence going into corners. On the vredestines I always could feel the "give" - worried that (obviously it wouldn't happen, just a "feel") if I went aggresively enough around a bend, the Fuch's would touch! Ha!
Anyway, when I had a vred off the wheel next to the avon, you could push in the sidewall fairly easily on the vred - and the avon was clearly thicker and ready for war in comparison.
This obviously translates to the road. The sacrifice is longevity.
Nobody ever seems to mention the Vredestein Sporttrac 5. It's actually a summer only tire in all the 15 size's we like. Sidewall looks horrible, but tread is much better than the P6000, and at $80 compared to $300, it's crazy value. I've actually done some light track days and 2 autox's on them, plenty grippy, much more so than my Vred's Sprints.
Probably because no one can find them. The catalogs show that the were made in both 195/65-15 and 205/60-15. But a bit of googling found no one with either of those sizes in stock. Most retailers only show stock in 2 or 3 sizes. Some say they can not be back ordered, others just say to call to ask about future availability. Sounds to me like these are not going to be made much longer, or more likely that production has already stopped.
- Arne
Current - 2018 718 Cayman, Rhodium Silver, PDK
Sold - 1972 911T coupe, Silver Metallic; 1984 911 Carrera coupe, Chiffon white; 1973 914 2.0, Saturn Yellow; 1984 944, Silver Metallic
This photo from our trip to Stelvio shows the difference between the P6000 (left) and CN36 (right):
I agree with Pete that sometimes the bulge on the 195 P6000 works, other times it doesn't. And the thread pattern on the CN36 is not exactly beautiful either, but it is "correct" of course.
One of nicest thread patterns in my opinion is Michelin's XAS. If I ever get a 67S, I will definitely put on these.
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FWIW, I had horrible balancing issues on my N rated P6000. Impossible to keep balances after about 40% wear of the tread. 2 sets and I gave up.
Here are some photos of the AVON cr6ZZ mounted on 1968 5.5 original fuch's. Tire size is 185/70 R15. I feel they have the right amount of classic, nothing sticks out they are modern or racing class.
Your car looks great, Mr Maddox!!
I purchased a set of Pirelli CN36's a couple of years ago,2018, and they were dated from 2016.Had to buy them through the Porsche dealer who was somewhat uninformed and aware about them.
I assumed that they only made 1 batch and until they sold out would not make another.
Is that still the case? Does anyone have any more recent dates?
J acker
https://www.lucasclassictires.com/18...p1857015n4.htm. Not cheap! I thought the CR6zz's were pricey enough!