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    Difference in '70 to '71 speaker grille

    I was trying to help a fellow P-car guy out and sold him a speaker grille for $10 including postage out of a '71 Targa. He has a '70 911, but he didn't say Targa or coupe. It doesn't fit. There is a difference?

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    Hmmm, I'd have originally said they were all the same. But when just dashes remanufactured Evren's dash, they insisted that the speaker grill come with the dash or it was a no go. Perhaps matching sets only? Perhaps the grille & the dash were made at the same time? So, I'll call it an "I dunno"
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    Jared Rundell - Registered User JCR's Avatar
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    Hmmm - I know the speaker itself is an odd size, no longer being made. But as far as I know the grilles should all have the same outline and fastening points. The only difference I've noticed is some grilles have a square shaped perforation pattern and some have a diamond shape.

    I successfully married a dash and grille from two sources - dash from a '73 donor, not sure what year car the grille came from. It was a perfect fit.

    Any more info? Could the dash be warped or have a homemade cutout???
    Jared
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    I purschased this grill. The grill has four screws that should go into something. I have nothing to put the screws in to. There is about 1 inch below the grill area to where the speaker should be. Is there something I am missing that the grill should attach to? Or do I just have a different dash that does not belong on my 1970 Targa?
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    Check out this recent thread on dash/speaker relationships:

    http://d240157.u39.zeonhost.com/foru...=speaker+grill


    In it I posted pictures of the fittings in the grill opening which accept the threaded studs on the underside of the grill.
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    Photos good, my dash bad........That is definitely the problem. I don't have the female openings. My dash has the opening but doesn't have anything to push the male connections into.
    Chris
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    Jared Rundell - Registered User JCR's Avatar
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    Bad news

    Three words:
    3M Trim Adhesive

    If you want to bring it back to original, you need to get a used dash with the proper flange mount for the grille. Not an inexpensive proposition, plus you have to remove the windshield to install it. Not in itself a big deal, but you'll need a new rubber glass seal and may as well replace your most likely pitted windshield while it's out.

    I've been there - my cost for the above... about $800.00 - and lots of swearing (did my own labor). It was worth every penny to me since I now have a perfect dash and windshield. As a bonus, I was able to see the wax pencil factory numbers which are scribbled on the metal under the dash pad (yes - I'm a geek when it comes to that stuff). Look on the bright side - you already have a grille, and at a great price to boot!

    You could also just get one of the inexpensive vinyl covers that lays over the dash - if you're not concerned with originality.
    Jared
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    I was looking at the dash a few minutes ago. I wonder if I don't already have one of the dash covers. That would explain why I have holes for screws an inch below the dash.
    Chris
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    the "male" pieces just push into grommets that should be in the female holes of the dash. If your grommets are gone or worn out, a little bit of clear silicone works well and still allows easy removal of the grill in the future (I know from experience on my 71 Targa).
    '71 911S Targa

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