Still on the road

[Original Poster]

Original post....

[PeterM1965]

Issues with rust makes me doubt that anywhere near 80% of the long hoods survive. Even today with rising values it's easy for repairs to exceed the value of the car so back 25-30 years ago a lot of these cars went to the scrap heap. I'm sure that there are a lot more engines and transmissions than bodies surviving.

[John Straub]

No way 80%...

John

[beh911]

This interesting topic comes up a lot
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-Accounted-For

My guesstimate is more like 10% of the early cars exist, with more surfacing all the time due to value, but with so many wrecked and dust binned due to rust, it will never be more than 20%.

Just my opinion

[Longballa]

They are probably coming up with this calculating the number of 911's they've made since say 1978 and on. They are looking at the whole line up through the modern 911's. Even if there's only 20% of the long hoods left they can still say 80% because of all the newer 911's that are made in the thousands. That's what you call good marketing.

[Cliff]

I don`t know how most are viewing this; I looked out in the garage and there is more than 80% of my 3 cars left.... One is a 67 912 though!!!!there were a lot of 912 made, so maybe these need to be included in the equation..Cliff

[Macroni]

Raj back to the beach......

[Cliff]

I know of a two owner 66 (with black plates)911 that is not listed on any registry, unless he decides to sell it to me some day.......

[mrgreenjeans]

Porsche is making the claim that 80% of the 700,000 911's produced are still on the road.what is the basis for this claim? If that is true of the long hoods that should leave plenty of cars for everyone approximately 55,000 cars.


This is the registry for the Esses,so how many are registered?i know the odds of the long hoods being 80% is unlikely.I always suspected it is an approximation of 20%.


Raj

Isn't there someone on here that works with actuarial numbers for an an auto insurer ? Maybe he could chime in here.

Not long ago, it seems I read an article in a Hemmings magazine about this very thing regarding collector car actuarial numbers, and something was mentioned about an across the board 20-30 % for certain year vintages, and when talking about prewar numbers, it was like falling off a cliff due to scrap drives taking out the majority of the population.

So......since this last part of the equation eliminates that scenario, since we are talking since the late 40's and on, the biggest attrition rates in my mind would be wear out, rust out, and crash out, maybe in that order.

I bet the numbers for pre galvanized bodies is more like 10% or less world wide. When we were in Germany and speaking with a representative of the German Porsche Club about 914's, he said he had numbers showing that around 200 total were left then in the data base....... In 1991 ! This is for teeners ! What the heck happened to them all ???? RUST, Hell-hole issues, Crash damage.

My guess here for 911's is more survived, because they were a little more valued, a little more special, but the toll world wide HAS to be huge for the un-galvanized longhoods.
Just my thoughts on a subject that comes to mind for me often. Here in the midwest, we just don't see many remaining, even at Porsche car shows or track events.

[mrg3.6]

Porsche have simply done the math, based on the crazy prices being charged for the now 'ultra-rare' toolkits that came standard with every 911 ever manufactured - on this basis definitely more than 80% of the production must still be on the road

Martin