911S/911L Cars for Sale

[DOUGS73E]

For sale in Belgium, not mine.

I think this car has a rather strange VIN font, looks to be of a 1972/1973 911, the 1969 has a more rounded type of font, at least in my own '69. What do the experts think of this? Also the type plate shows 911S-B in stead of 911S, is that normal?

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I can't tell if the car is a fake or not. But the VIN and engine number are accurate 1969 911S 'B' series serial numbers. The green fan shroud is what is found on a 1972/1973 model year 2.4L 911E. The tachometer is from a 911T (~6400 RPM redline).

[beh911]

Are you saying this is not a 1969 911S with a 1969 911S engine and that the numbers are fake?

Yes. And I agree

[Jesse-911E 1969]

Do you mean you agree the VIN numbers are fake? I am only asking what the experts think, the font looks different than many '69 vins I have seen, that's why I am asking. See also:

Upper VIN of an authentic 1969 911T and lower the VIN of the 1969 911S:

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[VZ935]

That VIN stamp does not look remotely close to the stamp on my 69S

Do you mean you agree the VIN numbers are fake? I am only asking what the experts think, the font looks different than many '69 vins I have seen, that's why I am asking. See also:

Upper VIN of an authentic 1969 911T and lower the VIN of the 1969 911S:

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[Jesse-911E 1969]

Probably a restamped VIN then..

[Simoni]

Why is it that European dealers rarely disclose the complete VIN, engine or trans numbers? None of the photos appear to be the actual car; all labelled "Visual for Information".

For sale at Oldtimers MM Passion, Brussels, Belgium
1967(MY) Porsche 2.0L 911S Soft Window Targa (currently undergoing restoration)
VIN: 500 xxx S
Engine: 961 xxx
Trans: -
Color: Metallic Silver/Black Leather
Mileage: -
Price: 'On Demand'

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Dealer Description:

Porsche 911 S 2.0 Soft Window Targa, 5-speed gearbox. All match numbers European version Sonauto Restoration in progress. 1966 first series production, only 483 made.
Main options: Silver Metallic, radio, loud speaker, headrests, leather, european equipment, green counters, original Jack, Tool Kit, 5 original 4.5 X15 Fuchs rims, webasto.
Documented with its Porsche Certificate of Authenticity and Kardex factory! Available: August/September 2017. A collector’s dream! Simply one of the best examples of this rare and desirable Soft Targa S first production!
Tremendous investment potential! More information on request.

That car is still undergoing restoration, that's why it lacks in real life pictures.

[Scott72]

Here is my 69S vin. Looks like the 69T above.
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[lopena]

Here's the VIN from my '69 911S...only 15 cars after the one in question...probably built the same day!

The fonts aren't remotely the same...just look at the shape of the zeroes:

[72targa]

No asterisks either...

[Richardnew]

That may be one of the worst restamps I've seen.

Keep in mind that a VIN swap is most likely a federal crime for a road car. Engine stamps are no problem though. At least with the feds.

Richard Newton
Porsche Concours College