I thought this was worth sharing from Road Scholars site...
http://road-scholars.com/1964-porsch...are-early-911/
I thought this was worth sharing from Road Scholars site...
http://road-scholars.com/1964-porsch...are-early-911/
I wonder how much $$$ this set back the new owner?
1968 911S
1986 Carrera
2006 Carrera S
1973 BMW 3.0CS - Frances (gone but not forgotten)
Anyone know how much it sold for?
300359
Interesting though, the Kardex shows a completion date of Jan 19, 1965. Also cool that it was delivered to the Chicago area.
Those are some interesting gaps...
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they are said to shrink dimensionally until nearly not even noticed, by the owner of any of the so called remaining 45 or so cars of the 64 - 232's.
heck, I hardly noticed them and was actually blinded by the other documents into thinking they were non existant.
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mrgreenjeans
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-'85.2 - 944 -M456 -Zermatt / Sport Purposes
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-'88 -944 - Jubilee Ltd. Ed. -Satin Black Met/Grey Plaid
-'88 -911 - Tourist Delivery -Venetian Blue
-'89 -944 Turbo M030 - Satin Black Met.
Interesting sales technique. Claim you have a 1964 911 then post documents which prove that it wasn't built until the third week of January 1965.
andy
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There two things that I note:
This might be the real 'oldest' US delivered 911 still in the US
The 901 registry probably will know whether no. 232 was the last completed 911 in 1964 or that it was for instance no. 235 since cars were not produced in sequential order. Personally I would not see a difference between it being delivered in the last week of 64 or a little later, technically (details) it most likely is an identical car (of course there should be a discount for it 'not being completed in 64').
My $.02
Richard
Sorry guys, just cus the kardex says dates like January 19, 1965 and November 18, 1965 neither is the date the car was produced.
The dates on the kardex are the transfer of delivery (when Porsche got paid for the car) and warranty - how long the car would be serviced on Porsche's nickel.
And no, it was not the last car made in 1964. Cars were assembled out of order, first come first completed. Cars were set aside for paint colors, missing parts etc. and could be 30 to 40 cars out of order. That's how the first 911 car #049 was the 83 car to come off the assembly line.
Serial numbers higher than 232 were completed in 1964. The TOTAL number of cars was 232, not by serial number. I have it on good authority that there were more cars completed after car 300 232, the following day, some with higher serial numbers and lower serial numbers, but all in December 1964.
Yes we can all see items that are "not as it came off the assembly line", but if that is the only criteria to appreciate an old car we would have to discard 95% (or more) of the cars on this board...wouldn't we? (And this board has some stellar cars on it).
It's just a very cool car.
There needs to be study completed for cars entry into the 1965 USA market by Porsche. From the archives here on the Early 911S Registry you can find this: 300 013 was the Ivory show car that was shown at the Pan Pacific Auditorium car show in October 1964, there is no history as to how many car exhibits the car was shown at or which distributor used the car as a demo or when it sold to a customer (that car is still known and has since made it's way to Finland). 300 128 was the documented first cars delivered to Jacksonville Florida in December 1964 and used as a demo car for it's first 30K miles, sold to Jack Ryan who with Bill Bencker, raced it at Daytona in 1966 and won, the first 911 to win a FIA class race. It was the black car #18 at Rennsport Reunion 4. 300 032 was bootleged into this country by Leo Rapp - outside the Porsche channels- because Rapp wanted to sell the 911's and Porsche didn't have enough to use as a demo cars.. first 901 on the west coast. After its tour of duty it sold to Jim Wellington - who raced it. It's still being raced by Dean Watts, who showed it at the Porsche Race Car Classic, October 2011 at the Quail Lodge.
A blue 911 (serial number unknown) was shown at a dealers show room in Milwaukee in January 1965 - had to have been a 232 car by features and timing.
These cars are still out there, coming up on the 50th anniversary seems to be having a positive impact on more coming out of storage.
Last edited by Bobs 67S; 02-25-2013 at 11:49 AM. Reason: correcting info - Pan Pacific location of the car show
Bob
Early S Reg #370
Thanks for that.
So is it safe to say...
It is in fact a 64, but being #232 VIN doesn't necessarily mean it was the last of the 232 64 cars. True?
Just trying to understand