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    1967 911s for sale (not mine) "lowest miles..."


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    305347s

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    VIN = 305347S
    Eng# = 960079

    From Bonham's schtik . . .

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    1967 Porsche 911S 2.0-Liter Coupé
    Chassis no. 305347S
    Engine no. 960079
    * 2-liter flat six-cylinder
    * 5-speed manual transmission
    * Matching numbers, low mileage example
    * Very early 911S
    * Original California delivery car

    A 'modern classic' if ever there was one, Porsche's long-running 911 arrived in 1964, replacing the 356. The latter's rear-engined layout was retained, but the 911 switched to unitary construction for the bodyshell and dropped the 356's VW-based suspension in favor of a more modern McPherson strut and trailing arm arrangement. In its first incarnation, Porsche's single-overhead-camshaft, air-cooled flat six displaced 1,991cc and produced 130bhp; progressively enlarged and developed, it would eventually grow to more than 3 liters and, in turbo-charged form, put out well over 300 horsepower.

    The first of countless up-grades came in 1966 with the introduction of the 911S. Easily distinguishable by its stylish Fuchs five-spoked alloy wheels, the 'S' featured a heavily revised engine producing 160bhp, an increase of 30% over the regular 911 that helped lift the top speed to 140mph. Other improvements included Koni shock absorbers, a front anti-roll bar for a sportier chassis and more powerful ventilated disc brakes. Over the past 40 years few sports cars have proved as versatile as Porsche's perennial 911, a model that has proved equally capable as a Grand Tourer, circuit racer or rally car. Success in the latter role came only a few years after its introduction, when works driver Vic Elford became European Rally Champion in 1967. In the modern era the 911 has established itself as one of the most popular and successful cars in historic rallying worldwide.

    This 1967 Porsche 911S Coupe was one of the earliest of the 911S variants produced, being released by the factory in Stuttgart on August 8, 1966, in the first week the Porsche factory began producing 1967 model cars. It was delivered new on December 6, 1966 to George L. Meeks of Half Moon Bay, California by the selling dealer John Mozart Porsche of Palo Alto. The current owner bought the car in 2010 from long time Porsche enthusiast and racer Phil Waen of Alameda, California, who had owned it for ten years and used the car sparingly. Waen had himself acquired the car in Orinda, California in 2000 where it had spent years garaged without seeing any use. The odometer reads approximately 62,000 miles (correction = kms), believed to be accurate, making the car a very low mileage example.

    The 911S retains its matching numbers drive-train, and its original light ivory paint and black leatherette interior. While the car's finish exhibits the delightful patina one would expect of a car built 46 years ago, it has been very well maintained, and the vendor reports is in excellent mechanical condition. After purchasing the car two years ago with the intention of turning the Porsche into a vintage race car, the current owner changed his mind and had the largely original car carefully and fully refreshed as a street car by noted marque expert Ben Kirchner of Retrosport in Berkeley, California. Work performed included a new 911S factory clutch, new engine main seals, new Koni shock absorbers, plus the brake system overhauled and the clutch, speedometer and throttle cables all replaced. Considerable attention was paid to the Porsche's cabin, which benefited from new factory wool carpets and seat belts, a wood-rim steering wheel, the front seats rebuilt with new padding and all new door and window seals installed. Other notable features include Fuchs alloy wheels on new Yokohama sport tires, SSI stainless steel heat exchangers and Marchal hood-mounted rally lights. The Porsche comes with the original owner's manual and service book, receipts from the recent service work at Retrosport, as well as for work performed at The Stable in San Francisco by the previous owner, spare tire and jack.

    This 911 represents a rare opportunity to purchase a lovely early example of the desirable early "S", a car that has always been looked after and sits today very much as it left the Porsche factory 45 years ago.
    Estimate:
    US$ 90,000 - 110,000
    £58,000 - 71,000
    €74,000 - 90,000

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    $100k for an original all there 67S......botton line.

    Doesn't sound too bad.

    I would keep it as-is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRanger View Post

    The odometer reads approximately 62,000 miles (correction = kms), believed to be accurate, making the car a very low mileage example.
    Is that statement about the mileage standard auction house legalese?

    Just curious, as that's extremely low mileage claimed without the most comforting statement to back it up.

    More pictures beyond the Fuchs wheel and rear decklid script would be nice.
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    We will be at all the auctions and I plan on seeing every Early 911 for sale....and will report back.

    If that car is 90% as described its a great buy for someone assuming the bidding doesn't go nuts. I know of another car that sounds very similar to this one but red (90% original) for sale @ $150k. Truspeed in Costa Mesa has it sitting in the back of their showroom. The owner was completing the details last time I saw it.

    Paul at Auto Kennel has a GREAT Orange 67S that he will be putting for sale soon...his has to be a $120k car.

    So, $100k is probably spot on for an original car.

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    Are you guys looking carefully enough? I don't see a low mileage 'original' S.

    There is over 10 k needed to put the obvious items right, and that on limited photos provided. And that's if you can FIND the parts.

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    Mike is right...just looked....lots of non 67S bits...interesting.

    Smells like a flip to me.

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    That's no 38,000 mile car. Probably not original paint either. The entire floor pan looks suspect.

    Bonham's should be held accountable for its representation. Anyone spending five minutes in front of a monitor should be able to spot the serious problems on this one. Replaced deco trim on an original paint car? I don't think so.

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    Here is the car in a previous sale





    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by 210bhp View Post
    Here is the car in a previous sale



    Regards
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    I see front tie-down latches in the earlier photos and none in the Bonham listing. If this is the same car, Mike, wouldn't that mean that there are rivet holes that have been filled in for the Bonham photos? Does the "original paint" claim still accurately represent what is going on in that case? Just sayin' . . .
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