'Versuch' Cars

[Eric Gratz]

My friend has a '66 #303328 and the Kardex says "versuch." Not sure what it could have been a test bed for. It was in the Factory's hands for over a year before being sent to Los Angeles in '67 and arrived wearing 7" Fuchs and also had one on the spare.

It looks like your friend's car 303328 was used for KALIFORNIENTEST NR. 1 on 11 May 1966. This was the California exhaust emissions test. See the attached test sheet from Tobias Aichele's book "Porsche 911 Engine History & Development".

[Eminence Gris]

It looks like your friend's car 303328 used for KALIFORNIENTEST NR. 1 on 11 May 1966. This was the California exhaust emissions test. See the attached test sheet from Tobias Aichele's book "Porsche 911 Engine History & Development".

Fascinating.
Must’ve been a heck of a test since they had to replace the engine in the car before retailing it.

[LongRanger]

. . . looks like your friend's car 303328 was used for KALIFORNIENTEST NR. 1 on 11 May 1966. This was the California exhaust emissions test . . .

See --- now this makes sense . . . a 'versuch' car that was actually used for some 'test' purpose, at some point

Here's another . . .

. . . went to see the engine this morning and it's really incredible:

A hybrid between a 2.2S and a 2.4S, one of the first experimental 2.4 engine built . . . . Here is a copy of the factory registry page I received from Porsche (chassis 1180) . . . . The engine number has been crossed out and replaced with "6329003" by the "versuch" department . . .

Too bad all of Milou's pic-links are dead


Anyway --- just makes all the other 'non-tested' versuch cars that much more curious . . .

. . . or maybe their 'tests' were just more prosaic?


'K --- so the Mechs have finished with the door lock tester . . . wrung it out pretty good at lunch, yesterday, too, looks like, soooo . . .


. . . get rid of it. Only, uh . . . don't sell it to a Dealer


Discount it --- then dump it out to one of the Drivers'




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[Eric Gratz]

It looks like there were a few Versuch cars with close serial numbers

SN 303328 with engine 903465 used for Kalifornientest

SN 303330 mentioned here https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...11-1965-303330

SN 303331 mentioned here https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...or-Sale/page88 with reference to use of Weber carbs rather than Solex

[Eric Gratz]

It looks like 320-013 was discovered a few years back. It was first registered as S-J 3063 in May 1968 by Porsche then LB-MH 40 by Hans Mezger.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/de/2019...ger-16212.html

[HughH]

Great find Eric

[LongRanger]

. . . first registered as S-J 3063 in May 1968 by Porsche then LB-MH 40 by Hans Mezger . . .

. . . there's more


'. . . Der entscheidende Tipp kam von Hans Mezger persönlich: Bevor er es erwarb, hatte das Vorserienfahrzeug wohl zur Freigabe der neuen Spezifikationen gedient – als Dienstwagen von Ferdinand Piëch, dem damaligen Entwicklungschef von Porsche.'


' . . .The crucial tip came from Hans Mezger personally: before he bought it, the pre-series vehicle was probably used to approve the new specifications – as a company car for Ferdinand Piëch, who was head of development at Porsche at the time.'





Also --- 320013 is a LWB '68



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[Eric Gratz]

Two WE Versuch cars have been identified that had early 2.2L engines installed.

1969 911T 119121300 had 2.2L E engine 6200003 and gearbox 7399101, a special ratios to order gearbox
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1161714

1969 911S 119301099 had 2.2L S engine 6300012 and gearbox 7399106, also a special ratios to order gearbox
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...l=1#post971185


119121300




119301099

[ejboyd5]

For me, the German word, "versuch," always equated to its English counterpart, "bespoke," and for both, the teachings of Humpty Dumpty apply:

[Yellow491]

Here is my versuch engine case,came out of a 2.7rs test mule