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    Raj,

    I'll look into the wiring and switch stuff later this week and post some info. Very behind on work now.

    Currently coming off sensory overload from Amelia, probably should post a thread on that amazing event as well.

    Thanks,
    Bryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by varunan123 View Post
    bryce


    Can you share your fog light set-up wiring and switches for above and below.


    raj
    Knobs and backlight colors (both appear green, although when lit up are amber, probably due to age). Fog lights on left by steering column and driving lights above radio

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    Below bumper fog light switch
    914.613.451.10 - (NLA)
    Switch and BTB fogs added by original owner after car purchase, July 69. Wired per below diagram. It's a replacement switch. Original installed switch was 911.613.027.00 according to records

    Wiring
    Follows this diagram.

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    TTG Driving Lights (Factory installed/wired)
    Per factory T,E,S electrical diagram

    Operation
    Fog lights - Pull for fronts, then 1/4 turn and rear fog comes on. Fogs stay on with low or high beams, and switch lights up
    Driving lights - When switch is pulled and high beams are on, driving lights work and switch lights up

    Since fogs stay on regardless of high and low headlights, the wiring for fogs may bypass the headlight switch.
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    TTG Drivings were factory which was unusual for a US car so they may have slipped through.

    Below bumper fogs were post delivery by dealer, as factory refused the install. Fog lights were purchased from a dealer in Germany and shipped to owner in July 69. Back then, he could not get a US dealer parts dept to order halogen lights, hence the drastic measures. This is all documented in the car's paper trail.

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    Also, I agree with your post in the bob tilton thread regarding knob symbol colors that 'green' is the right one for LWB cars. I have no idea if it's the same for SWB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varunan123 View Post
    Bryce


    Thanks yes the combo was rare but there are 67's with both installed at the factory for other markets-just not US and maybe other markets i am not aware of.


    raj


    P.S was the harness installed at the factory and just not hooked or was all wiring and lights done here.Also,can you post photos of the relay for these?sorry for all the requests.


    raj
    Interesting points you bring up.
    Re: TTG and BTB lights from factory
    I thought I read that the Factory Accessories Brochure in the pic above was a world doc but language translated for each market. I could easily be wrong. But if I am correct, this could mean this was a world market requirement, maybe starting in 69.

    Re: relays and wiring harness
    Look at the wiring harness and tell me what you think. The white/greens have been separated from the main harness bundle, but all of it is wrapped up as it is routed to the front of the car. Was this green/white run up into the front harness, then taped over or is that factory tape?
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    In above pic, Big red #30 on Fuse box 1 (sticker in glare says '30'), plus note splice of striped wire onto 87 on Fuse box 2. This splicing of the correct wire back to the switch and labeling was probably done by Capt Mike after getting the car back from the dealer so he could keep track of the wires and have the wire colors match the factory diagram.

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    Relays - note I have the standard 'two pack' which is correct according to factory manual for one set of auxiliary lights which matches the manual too. So the btb fogs may go to another relay, I'll have to check where the btb fog relay is
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    This morning I took advantage of the fantastic cool, crisp spring weather here in Atlanta, coupled with the doubly light traffic on the roads due to Easter. I had the surface streets to myself for awhile.

    I took a few shots in the early light that didn't turn out that well. So much for point and shoot! Here's an example. Of note is the house in the background... that's 912 Lullwater Dr, Dr. Leonard Turner's place. You may recognize the name if you enjoy the photography in Panorama magazine. I imagine he'd have some suggestions for me after seeing this shot...

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    Next was a quick run over to downtown Decatur, where I found this great wall mural. I think the slogan at the top of the picture is the unsaid mantra for the S Registry.

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    I then meandered west along Dekalb Avenue towards downtown, ending up on Krog St where I pulled over to take some pictures against the old stove works buildings. These once decaying structures are now nice restaurants and trendy offices and such. Still a bit edgy, so you never know what you will find. Read on.

    Wormhole alert! I left the engine idling as I was only going to be there a few minutes to snap some pics. The door across the street inched open as I took the first one, and out came Evan (the boy) and then my host. They had heard my car idling and had to see what was what. The next 1/2 hour was truly memorable.

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    Apparently I had by pure coincidence pulled up in front of the garage/offices of an avid motor enthusiast, architect, and general renaissance sort of guy's getaway, that of Mr. Richard Taylor. After admiring my car for a few minutes, he invited me on a tour of his place. Unfortunately his 71 T was not at his shop to comb over.

    Inside he was working on his Triumph TR for the tribute at the Mitty end of this month. A vintage Triumph motorcycle was up on a stand in the loft accessible by the old freight elevator. Lotus body hanging mid air, waiting for the chassis currently under renovation. And a mechanically original 67 Beetle he had just finished painting. He had converted the old machine room of the stove works factory into his architecture firm's offices, reusing all the old fixtures and systems in the most interesting ways. Scale model building desk, antique rifle restoration, WWII airplane parts, and sleeping quarters decked out from his recollections of arrangements used during his service in Vietnam. Let's see, beekeeping on the balcony, rainwater collection from the roof to flush toilets, what am I forgetting!

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    The moral of the story is get out and drive your car today and see what adventure finds you. Do it in tribute to Butzi or whatever excuse you need to exercise the machinery.

    Oh, and Happy Easter!

    - Bryce
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    Delighted to see this car in such good hands. I knew Captain Mike and I know how much he cared about this car. I know Jean was happy to see you end up with it.
    Regards,
    Tom in NC

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    Thanks for the kind words, Tom!

    It's a pleasure to have folks that knew Mike and the car chime in on this thread.
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    April 18th

    Special day of sorts:

    -1 year anniversary of my ownership of this car. 2200 miles of learning, driving, researching, and sharing. That's more miles than the car covered in the previous twenty years of its life. This machine has been so much fun to drive and tinker with, getting the last few percent the way I want it. Looking back at my 'to-do' list, I've done so many small things to it that have added up to quite a lot. Of course there is always something else to do but that's half the enjoyment for me at least!

    -My daughter was born on the 18th as well... of July. So that makes her 21 months old. She is quickly taking to all things mechanical just like her dad! Mesmerized by the sound of the engine, she's still much more comfortable hanging out close by with the ignition off.
    Looking forward to her first outing in the car someday, car seat search has ensued with little luck so far.

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