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    Quote Originally Posted by beh911 View Post
    No affiliation.

    I apologize if this is old ground but a quick search didn't show this VIN on the site.

    9113601102
    Engine - 6631073
    RHD, currently in Asia
    Mileage = 14k km

    It appears to be for sale based on a thread on Ferrari chat.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/oth...orsche-rs.html

    Info and pics on car:
    http://www.my911carrerars.com/known_...sis=9113601102
    I wonder why a Rhd RS would originally be delivered to Germany. Must be an interesting story there.......


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    This car has interesting specs: Black leather interior, LSD, air conditioning and electric windows as per the entry in the "my carrera RS page" but i think 258 is L&R headrests not heated mirror (that must be a reused number for later cars).

    However I am not sure that it is "factory RHD" despite it now being RHD and the My carrera RS page showing it as RHD
    The RS book does not say whether a car is RHD or LHD originally, it is something that can be derived however from the delivery destination.
    we know that Australia, UK, Hong Kong and South Africa were RHD markets, but it is possible that not all cars that went to those markets were RHD ( i know they were for Australia). But it is also known that one RHD car went to Spain- 1486 for John Fitzpatrick.We also know that 100 M472 cars were made in RHD
    Australia got 6, HK got 4, SA got 2 and the UK got 87. IF all of those were RHD when you add in #1486 that is the 100 cars. - but of course that is if all of them were RHD. Do the UK members know of any UK RS ordered in LHD - i have no records of one

    the RS book has this car as England equipment but that might be a typo as the car above it was a UK one with that code.
    shows it was delivered to Lintorf / Dusseldorf Gottfried W Schultz

    maybe it was converted in the restoration and they based the RHD on the possibly incorrect country code ??

    EDIT

    i have had it confirmed that it was a factory RHD car despite being delivered to Germany and one of the UK cars was LHD see posts below
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    It is maybe a car delivered to an English soldier stationed there, and this man intented to bring it in the UK later so ordered it in RHD. Dusseldorf was into the English sector then.
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    maybe it is factory RHD after all
    i just checked my spreadsheets and the RS book again. there are a number of cars that have different country codes to the country they are supposed to be delivered to. I am assuming this is correct and not a typo.
    in particular there is one UK car,1198, that is shown as "England - transit" and has Swiss country code against it. This could quite easily be a LHD car, which makes room for one more RHD car to make up the numbers built. Of interest the RHD car delivered to Spain for Fitzpatrick shows a England country code as do the Hong Kong cars


    Edit: I have had it confirmed that 1198 was LHD and was a UK delivered car (although the code EZ for transit was a typo and it should have just been UK delivery with Swiss equipment) and 1102 was factory RHD despite being delivered to Germany
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    FS: @Coys Auction - 1973 911 Carrera 2.7L RS

    Coys Auction, Blenheim Palace, UK, 11th July 2015
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Touring (472), Lot 178
    Registration: Swedish
    VIN: 9113600541
    Engine: -
    Trans: -
    Mileage: -
    Auction Estimate: £400,000 - £500,000/~US$630,000 - $785,000
    Sold for: £427,400 /~US$ 667,000/~ €612,000

    73 RS 1.jpg

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    Auction Description:

    Being 1 of 1,580 originally produced, #0541 is a matching numbers example of this most sought after Porsche and is in mint condition throughout, having been expertly treated over 23 years by its fastidious owner, the current vendor.

    “Germany's fastest rarity” – as the 911 RS was called by the testers in period – has not lost any of its assets, and today for many Porsche enthusiasts is still is the most enjoyable Porsche 911 to own and to drive.

    When #0541 was delivered from the factory the extras ordered were: limited slip differential; Recaro sport seats with Perlon-cord inserts; long range petrol tank; and 'space saver' spare wheel. The car's roof was executed by the works in thin metal; it wears its original GRP duck-tail rear spoiler, its original GRP front spoiler as well as its original headlining, all in excellent condition, as is the original dashboard. The only later additions are the inner door skins, which are also lightweight specification.

    The injection pump was overhauled by Bosch (inv. available); the engine also had a major overhaul with new main and connecting rod bearings and a complete set of new original Porsche pistons/cylinder by Mahle. Time serts were also installed to fasten cylinder head studs in the crankcase and the chain tensioners were updated to the modern type.

    Since this overhaul the car has run – faultlessly, as expected – for around 15,000 kilometres, and its total mileage is now just over 100,000 kilometres.

    Moreover, the original Fuchs rims – 7' to the front and 8' to the rear – were overhauled by manufacturer Fuchs of Ludwigsburg in 2014. At that time the wheel alignment was also done.

    This Porsche 911 Carrera RS of 1973 speaks for itself. Totally rust-free (having always been stored in a dehumidified garage), it comes with Swedish paperwork, history file, original brochures, a custom fitted car cover, some original tools and paperwork.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 01-16-2024 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Added Sold Price, Restore Photos
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    White with red looks so good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72targa View Post
    9113601367 for sale at www.DJMInvestments.net
    Now at Fantasy Junction...

    http://fantasyjunction.com/cars/1725...t%206-Cylinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by 72targa View Post
    . . . Now at Fantasy Junction...

    http://fantasyjunction.com/cars/1725...t%206-Cylinder . . .
    VIN 9113601367
    Eng# = ?
    Trans# = ?

    '. . . A fascinating 4-owner RS with known history back to new. This car was sold new to Karl Conrad, an employee of Porsche from 1958 to 1976, who kept the car until the late 1980s. The car received a factory replacement engine in 1975 after the original pulled a head stud. Additionally, the car was repainted silver in 1976 at the factory, a virtually unseen color on the RS due to the initial difficulty adhering silver paint to the plastic bodywork components unique to the RS. Conrad brought the car to the United States when he moved here in 1980 and repainted the car in 1987. Shortly thereafter, he sold the car to a doctor in Georgia who kept the car for just under ten years.

    Its next owner kept the car for a year before trading it for cash and a 1974 Carrera, to its next keeper, who owned the car for 18 years. He enthusiastically kept the car, replacing wear items as required with NOS Porsche parts, and adding a set of original upholstery houndstooth factory Recaro sport seats . . .
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    Previous appearances . . . see post #s 655 + 665
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    FS: @Gooding&Company Pebble Beach 2015 - '73 2.7L 911 Carrera RS

    Gooding & Company - Pebble Beach 2015
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS Touring
    VIN: 9113600631
    Engine: 6630645
    Trans: 7830637
    Mileage: -
    Color: -
    Auction Estimate: US$700,000 - $800,000
    Sold for: US$660,000

    73 Carrera RS Touring.JPG

    Auction Description:

    PROVENANCE
    Original Owner, Luxembourg (acquired new in February 1973)
    Mr. Eiteljorg, Indianapolis, Indiana (acquired in April 1983)
    Private Collection, Ohio (acquired from the above in 1987)
    William Ockerlund, Holland, Michigan
    Current Owner (acquired from the above)

    LITERATURE
    Dr. Thomas Gruber and Dr. Georg Konradsheim, Carrera RS, p. 225

    THIS CAR
    A well-known and highly regarded Carrera 2.7 RS, this desirable second-series variant is an impressive example of Porsche’s legendary 1970s supercar. All told, Porsche built just 1,580 of these world-class sports cars, all but 200 of which were delivered in M472 or Touring specification, which was far better suited for road use.

    One of only 87 examples originally finished in Signal Yellow, this RS Touring was built in February 1973, equipped from new with Pirelli CN36 tires and standard seats, trimmed in black leatherette with corduroy inserts, and fitted with driver and passenger headrests. Delivered new to a resident of Luxembourg, presumably through official distributor garage Martin Losch, this Carrera RS is believed to have remained in the hands of its first owner for approximately 10 years.

    In April 1983, Mr. Eiteljorg, an Indianapolis-based Porsche collector, purchased the 911 in Europe and imported it to the US. At the time of his acquisition, the 2.7 RS reportedly showed just 60,021 km (approximately 37,300 miles) on the odometer. In 1987, the Carrera was sold to a collector in Ohio, who commissioned extensive restoration work that included a rebuild of the engine and transaxle by Bob Farmer of Farmer’s Automotive in Greenfield, Indiana. The opportunity was taken to address cosmetic aspects as well, and the body was stripped and repainted in the factory-correct shade of Signal Yellow. The cosmetic work was entrusted to Blackburn-Daly Ltd. in Indianapolis, with John Blackburn overseeing the final assembly.

    The beautifully restored RS remained a fixture in several prominent Midwest collections until 2013, when it was sold to the current owner, an East Coast collector with a passion for the finest European sports and racing cars. During his ownership, the consignor sent the Carrera RS to Flat 6 Gallery in Hernando, Florida, where the engine was re-sealed and the undercarriage carefully detailed. An invoice documenting this recent work accompanies the sale of the car, as does a tool roll, owner’s manual, and a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity.

    Well-restored and carefully maintained Carrera RSs don’t appear on the open market frequently, making this car’s availability a particularly exciting opportunity. Of all the early 911 variants produced from 1964 to 1973, the Carrera 2.7 RS figures as perhaps the most historically important and iconic model, as it is the platform from which many more powerful and significant competition 911 variants emerged.

    Striking in its factory-correct Signal Yellow livery, highlighted by the stylish optional Carrera script, this desirable second-series 2.7 RS Touring will make a fantastic addition to any collection, as an exceptionally versatile and rewarding sports car. It promises both visceral performance and acclaim at marque gatherings, in addition to being one of the most revered and imitated Porsches ever built.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 08-18-2015 at 02:16 PM. Reason: Added sold for price.
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    FS: @Gooding Pebble Beach 2015 - '73 2.7L 911 Carrera RS Light Weight

    Gooding & Company - Pebble Beach 2015
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS Light Weight
    VIN: 9113601193
    Engine: 6631165
    Trans: -
    Mileage: -
    Color: -
    Auction Estimate: US$1,000,000 - $1,200,000
    Sold for: US$962,500

    73 Carrera RS Touring.JPG

    Auction Description:

    PROVENANCE
    Jean-Claude Miloe, Paris, France (acquired circa 1992)
    Paul Tholly, Saint-Étienne, France (acquired from the above in February 1996)
    Xavier Ravon, Saint-Étienne, France (acquired from the above in October 2000)
    Jacques Souvignet, Saint-Étienne, France (acquired from the above in November 2005)
    Marc Blanc, Saint-Étienne, France (acquired from above in 2013) Current Owner

    The 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS has long been considered not just a pinnacle of early 911 development, but a pinnacle driver’s car, period. This vehicle, no. 1193, is one of only 200 RS Lightweights and benefits from a thoroughly documented Porsche factory restoration commissioned by noted Porsche connoisseur Jean-Claude Miloe.

    The Porsche 911 brand represents the continuing evolution of the tropfenwagen concept, with the engine and gearbox between the rear wheels. With his work on the Auto-Union Grand Prix cars, Dr. Ferdinand Porsche has become personally associated with the design, although other makers such as Tatra, Mercedes-Benz, and Saab also developed tropfenwagen.

    The 1973 RS is the most powerful, the lightest, and the last of the first-generation, slim-bumper 911s now preferred by collectors. It also introduced significant design features that would become 911 hallmarks, among them widened rear-wheel arches – to accommodate wheels and tires that were wider at the rear than at the front – Fuchs wheels, and an engine cover spoiler. The 1973 RS was developed during a period of gasoline scarcity that resulted in new racing regulations, excluding Porsche’s dominant 917. Porsche thus turned from building race car prototypes to modifying road cars – specifically the 911 – for the track. Notable wins for the 1973 RS were the 24 Hours of Daytona, 12 Hours of Sebring, and the Targa Florio. Racing regulations demanded that 500 examples be built; and to Porsche’s surprise, there was plenty of demand, and a total of 1,580 RS examples were sold.

    Mechanically, the RS benefited from a raft of evolutionary tweaks. By using flat-top pistons and nikasil-lined cylinders, a technique Porsche first used on the 917, the engine capacity was enlarged by a few hundred cubic centimeters, resulting in the first Porsche road car with more than 200 hp. Wind-tunnel research led to a larger front air dam and the distinctive ducktail spoiler, which reduced rear end lift by 75%, a factor that seems likely to have assisted with the RS model’s reputation as a stellar drivers car.

    In Lightweight (or M471) specification, Porsche pared the weight of the RS to 1,984 lbs., down from 2,194 lbs. in standard touring form. The savings were accomplished by using thinner body panels, a fiberglass front bumper, an aluminum-and-fiberglass engine cover, Glaverbel glass, and a stripped interior with minimal soundproofing.

    Mr. Miloe sourced 1193 in the early 1990s, and sent it to the Porsche factory at Zuffenhausen, Germany, in 1995 for a comprehensive restoration. In February 1996, it moved on to Paul Tholly, and remained in the Saint-Étienne area of France for the next two decades. The consignor, a discerning collector, acquired 1193 from Marc Blanc. As offered, this fabulously rare RS Lightweight has a thorough maintenance record from restoration to the present and is in excellent condition. The consignor notes that 1193 feels considerably more spirited than the quoted 210 hp might suggest.

    Documentation includes several Contrôle Technique Certificates, France’s rigorous vehicle inspection scheme that covers all aspects of vehicle performance. Combined with maintenance records detailing items such as suspension adjustment and the replacement of the oil cooler radiator, a picture emerges of continual robust mechanical health.

    No. 1193 is handsomely appointed in Grand Prix White with red decals and a black cloth interior, and has a competition-style roll cage in place. The Porsche factory restoration is detailed across three separate invoices, totaling more than 75,000 DM. During the restoration, as a precaution against oil leaks, the Porsche factory fitted a new aluminum gearbox in place of the original magnesium unit. The original magnesium gearbox will be supplied with 1193.

    Surely the 1973 RS, such as this remarkable example, is the original inspiration for the modern 911. M471 specification, excellent condition, exciting provenance, and thorough restoration and maintenance documentation make this a particularly desirable example of the coveted 911.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 08-18-2015 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Added sold for price.
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