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    Quote Originally Posted by brakekiller View Post
    Might that one (even being sold on BAT) being on sale again ?
    Have not seen that. This is a photo of the car from 2012. It was a nice build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sithot View Post
    Have not seen that. This is a photo of the car from 2012. It was a nice build.
    It is indeed.
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    FS: This is a R-Gruppe 1969 Porsche 911 T.

    It's a former rust-fee CA car with paperwork.









    It has the 2.0L engine with a 5-speed 901 transmission. Wheels rebuilt by Harvey. Lots of other modifications.

    Weber carbs:








    New pictures from under the car:






    $75K
    Last edited by Vintage Racer; 05-04-2018 at 10:22 AM. Reason: new pics
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  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Racer View Post
    FS: This is a R-Gruppe 1969 Porsche 911 T.

    It's a former rust-fee CA car with paperwork.









    It has the 2.0L engine with a 5-speed 901 transmission. Wheels rebuilt by Harvey. Lots of other modifications.

    Weber carbs:




    $75K
    Interested, you have PM... Thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Racer View Post
    FS: This is a R-Gruppe 1969 Porsche 911 T.

    It's a former rust-fee CA car with paperwork.









    It has the 2.0L engine with a 5-speed 901 transmission. Wheels rebuilt by Harvey. Lots of other modifications.

    Weber carbs:




    $75K
    Also interested. Sent you an email.

  6. #326

    FS: @BaT - 1972 Porsche 911T Track Car Project

    Is that nose designed to clear the long-horns off the race track?
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    1972 Porsche 911T Track Car Project
    VIN: 9112102090
    Engine: -
    Trans: -
    Color: Red
    Mileage: 27,406 (indicated)
    Auction Estimate: -
    Sold for: US$23,500 (04/20/18)

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    BaT Description:

    This 1972 Porsche 911T was acquired by a friend of the seller in 1989 and converted for track use over the next several years with extensive modifications to its powertrain, suspension, bodywork, and interior. The stock 2.4L flat-six was rebuilt to 2.7L approximately 20 years ago and sends power through a 915 5-speed transaxle with a limited-slip differential. The seller is a longtime Porsche tech who helped with various mechanical aspects of the build and is familiar with the shop that did the remainder of the work. The car is currently said to run, drive, steer, and stop but is not street legal and will need a comprehensive inspection and updates prior to further track use. It is offered on behalf of the family of the late owner with a Texas bill of sale.

    The car reportedly ran in southwest PCA club events in the 1990s, and saw more recent use in autocross, time trial and driver education events in Texas until early 2017. Body modifications include a fiberglass rear wing, wheel flares, doors, and rear bumper cover as well as a distinctive one-piece “shovel nose” front end, which is currently detached and shown in the photos below. Both doors show delamination at their hinges, and the rear bumper is described as in rough condition. Flush-mounted Plexiglass has been roughly installed in the quarter windows, rear windscreen, and passenger-side door.

    The front pan and fuel tank support are replacements according to the seller, and the front fender uprights have been removed while the inner fenders, latch panel, battery box, and stock fuel tank remain in place. Unnecessary wiring has been removed including that for the headlights, though the windshield wipers are in place and functional. Fuchs wheels are 7×16″ up front and 8×16″ in the rear, with all wearing BFGoodrich race rubber. The braking system consists of Wilwood front calipers, 3.2 Carrera rear calipers, 3.2 Carrera rotors at all four corners, and a single master cylinder.

    Carpeting and insulation were removed and the cabin was fitted with a bolt-in roll bar, though no forward cage is present. One-piece racing seats are mounted with older Deist harnesses. The seller notes that a stock pedal box has been retained, while the rear seat area and tunnel have been cut and patched to allow the relocation of suspension mounting points as described below. Controls include a MOMO race wheel and standard aluminum shifter assembly. Stock gauges are present aside from a missing clock. The 5-digit odometer shows 27k miles, though total chassis mileage is unknown.

    The 2.4L flat-six was rebuilt to 2.7L about 20 years ago according to the seller, who has worked as a Porsche tech for 30 years and notes that cold leakdown numbers are 3-5% on all cylinders. Current compression ratio is believed to be 8.5:1. Exhaust modifications include open megaphone pipes as well as headers with a heater box to allow use of a pump thermostat for cold running enrichment.

    Lubrication is through a stock oil system with flex hoses running to a large front cooler which will not fit under a stock front bumper. A thermostat has been added to the oil filter assembly. The car is described as running and driving, but will need to be brought up to date on maintenance before any further track use is considered.

    Front suspension consists of stock front control arms with Bilstein struts on mono-ball upper mounts, while the rear uses aluminum 911SC-style control arms with Bilstein sport shocks. Rear control arm pivots were raised to improve the camber settings for the lowered suspension. Further modifications include Weltmeister adjustable sway bars, a welded-in shock tower brace, and crude reinforcement plates for the rear upper mounts. The steering setup utilizes later 930-type tie rods and a bump steer kit.

    The one-piece fiberglass nose is described as quite heavy by the seller. Other uninstalled components are included as listed below:

    Turn signals and tail lamp housings with wiring
    Ventilation box, fan assembly, control valves, and cables
    Smuggler’s box door with hinges
    Steering column cover and other miscellaneous interior trim parts
    Firewall access panel
    Rear quarter window glass with some frame material but no hinge plates, latch mechanisms, or seals
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 04-26-2018 at 10:58 AM. Reason: Added sold for price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sithot View Post
    It appears the vacuum advance is still intact.
    It pulls hard to ~7000+ Rpm. Ignition advance works well.

    I did notice that the real four prototypes and the other 1967R cars are around the $1M mark. This one is $75K which is a savings to you of $925,000.

    Please compare this one for a real real one:




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    Quote Originally Posted by H-viken View Post
    1972 Porsche 911 ST Kremer European World Champion Tribute

    https://autokennel.com/1972-porsche-911-st-kremer/
    Attachment 450678
    Accurate Recreation by Marque Experts

    2.5L Twin Plug High Butterfly MFI
    Stock #0928

    VIN # 91121xxxxx

    2,800 Miles on Build

    2,000 Miles on Engine

    Viper/Emerald Green (225) on Black Interior
    5-Speed Manual Custom Gearbox
    PCA/Early S/R Gruppe Member Built/Owned
    Offered at $249,990


    Highlights of the build include the following:

    All metal body including steel flares, bumpers, and hood
    Aluminum deck lid
    Fenders and bumpers modified to ST-look by John Esposito
    Body correctly painted per factory methods
    Painted livery stripes (sponsorship and gumballs are vinyl)
    Repa “Y” vintage-style belts by Bill Rich w/factory sewn ID patches
    Dash plaque signed by original race driver John Fitzpatrick
    Parcel shelf harness anchors per factory specifications
    ST roll hoop (bolted-in and cambered for driver safety on street)
    Original “real” driver Recaro ST seat (passenger is early reproduction)
    Factory ST lightweight seat mounting brackets
    10k RPM tachometer/gauges restored by North Hollywood Speedo
    Tiny rev limit light in clock blanks
    Original Bosch battery kill switch mounted in dash speaker grill
    Factory front RSR 9×15 Fuchs date stamped 3/73 (refinished by Weidman)
    Custom rear 11×15 Fuchs built by Harvey Weidman
    Custom oil cooling system per factory setup
    Crossover hard oil lines through trunk
    Large mouth (30mm) Behr dual vender oil coolers (1972 only)
    Factory style custom fabricated cooler guards
    Custom street exhaust system with similar factory outlet tips location
    Additional race exhaust system for track use
    Custom fabricated RSR-style sway bars using Tarett Engineering drop links
    Gusseted front strut brace
    ER polybronze bushings
    Aluminum rear trailing arms with adjustable spring plates
    Koni adjustable shocks
    22mm & 28mm torsion bars
    Bump steer extensions
    Similar to the rest of the car, the motor was also built to what would have run in the day. Walt at Competition Engineering was hired to do the work. Highlights include:

    2.5L short stroke built on 1974 7R magnesium case
    90mm (10.5:1 compression) JE pistons and nikasil cylinders
    Line bored case with upgraded case savers/time certs/shuffle pinned
    Factory rods
    66mm counterbalanced crank
    Heads ported/polished/decked (39/36 I/E, 5 angle value grind)
    High flow valve job with new guides, springs, and studs
    Twin Bosch 6-pin CDI boxes
    7,500 rpm rev limiter (by Norbert Kerle in Germany)
    Original high butterfly injection system from Vasek Polak’s ’72 ST
    GE 40 cams
    RSR flywheel (balanced to crank, clutch, and pressure plate)
    JB Racing twin plug distributor
    Custom ITG air filter system
    Stainless steel headers
    Cabin fuel mixture control (next to e-brake/replaces heater lever) for easier cold starts

    For the last few years/thousand miles, Moorespeed has done some key work on this ST to not only get it to run right, but to also make it a wonderful driving early longhood for the street. Over $40k was recently invested which included some of the following items:

    Recammed the MFI pump (custom ground cam by Mark Jung/MFI Werks)
    R&R high butterfly system and tuned to work properly
    Installed custom cold start lever
    Repaired misc. wiring
    Reinstall roll bar to tilt and provide better safety for street use
    Complete chassis inspection for safety
    Adjust ride height for street driving and corner balance
    Install original aluminum S brake calipers (reconditioned)
    Custom mount driver seat low for tall drivers
    Rebuilt Bosch starter
    Repaired shifter housing
    New clutch and rear main seal
    Open transmission and replace main shaft seal
    Reseal transmission (all new gaskets)
    New shifter bushings
    While engine was out, many seals and gaskets were replaced
    Rebuilt distributor
    Replace both front struts (RSR) and modify front control arms/ball joints
    New rear RSR struts
    New (2) Bosch CDI units and repaired wiring
    New front wheel bearings (inner and outer)
    Install horn
    Finally, just a few months ago/100-miles, a full major service was performed, which included spark plugs, chain cover gasket, timing chain cover, valve cover gaskets, valve adjustment, oil service, and mount/balance a set of new Michelin TB15 Course tires.
    Not sure if this is accurate but this is one hell of a price drop

    https://forums.pelicanparts.com/pors...ory-parts.html
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZVW View Post
    Not sure if this is accurate but this is one hell of a price drop.
    I agree Mark.

    These cars are not early Ferrari GTO's that sell for $15M-$35M.

    I think 18,470 early SWB 911 cars where made (+20 1967R cars--see above)).

    The Porsche production exploded up to 50,513 cars LWB cars (+1560 RS cars).

    "Excellence Magazine" which I have paid a lot of money to subscribe to for many years, still values an average LBW car ("running but needs mechanical work although not major") at $25,000. I'll take three at that price!

    And they say "Good" (runs, driveable, and needs nothing) at $50,000.

    Really? I'll go another one.
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