FS: @anamera - 1968 Porsche 911S Targa 167,500 USD ex Jürgen Neuhaus

[67er911S]

I have seen this car for sale many times, dealer, ebay ? Hm,...

Now it is at Fantasy Junction.

Car 1968 Porsche 911S Targa
VIN 11850164
Mileage 24,544 miles


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http://www.anamera.com/en/detail/car...browcount%5d=6

[Peanut]

I trust this is a very nice car; however, at that price... can I ask... aren't there some details that really aren't correct? The seller mentions the interior as being "correct for an S" but maybe is trying to avoid some of the incorrectness? I have not seen 67 pockets on a 68 car, for example. And all the changes, including a color change, new interior, apparently a back bumper trim of a later car (I think?) after 24k miles??

Seller:
The interior is extremely nice with excellent dashboard, correct plush carpets, and correct for the S basketweave dashboard. The car also has its correct S instruments. The seats, carpets, switches, and controls are in excellent shape. The car is equipped with period correct Blaupunkt radio.

[edmayo]

I guess the rare, expensive 100 liter tank has somehow disappeared. That would be the first I ever heard of 5" Fuchs,,,,,I'm sure someone has measured them

[curtisaa]

Bad color and guarantee that the car was originally a SWT and was replaced with glass. Too bad. I hope he gets it !!

[bespoke]

All-

This is my car, I am staying heavily invested in the Porsche hobby, and it is for sale so soon because I am working with Fantasy Junction on another car deal. This is also the reason that I did not offer it directly to the members here.

It is NOT a soft window converted to a fixed window, it is an early (possibly the earliest?) fixed window car sold to the public and this is well documented on the Kardex and the COA, both of which FJ has in their possession. I drove it to and from Monterey car week this year without incident, but a few weeks after I returned it developed a fuel starvation problem and I brought it to Hi-Tec Auto in San Rafael. The fuel issue was an easy fix (some debris in the 100L tank had clogged the screen) and while it was there I asked them to go over the entire car, so pretty much everything else that needed attention was dealt with including a complete rebuild of the carbs (I spent over $11,000 there). The dealer before me put another $3,500 into the car earlier this year just before I bought it, including a new clutch.

I know (and respect) the rivet counters and keepers of the originality flame on this forum, and I am sure that there are little things that are incorrect on any 45 year old car, but it is an honest, numbers matching, fully documented car with interesting options and neat Porsche racing ownership history. Plus, it has had almost $14,000 worth of work done to it this year alone, the last $11,000 completed at a shop that I think everyone knows and respects on the forum (Hi-Tec)

As for the price, I guess the market will tell us what it is worth. If I can answer any other questions please let me know.

Tim

[LongRanger]

VIN = 11850164
Eng# = 4080563
Trans# = ?

From Fantasy Junction's page . . .

. . . Early 911’s embody a combination that is rare among collector cars today. They have unparalleled drivability and usability, especially when compared with other cars of the same vintage, but are also wholly evocative of a different era. There is a certain wholeness, cohesiveness, agility, and communicativeness that is only evident when they are driven, and it is no surprise that they have a fanatical following. For many years, however, they were just used cars, which makes finding genuinely solid examples which have been continuously cared throughout the car’s life very difficult today . . .

. . . All early 911’s have appreciated tremendously in recent years, and short wheelbase cars (1968 and earlier) have seen particularly strong interest during this period. The 911S, introduced for 1967, has led the appreciation curve because of its performance and exclusivity. The car became the top of the line model and has a higher level of specification in several ways, as well as a dramatically different character from the standard 911. This change was due in large part to the engine, which boasted an increased compression ratio, more aggressive camshafts, and higher flow carburetors, which boosted the power from 130hp to 160hp. The suspension was upgraded as well, and the 911 was fitted for the first time with Fuchs forged alloy wheels, which were lighter, stronger, and would become a design icon intimately associated with the 911 for over 20 years. The level of interior trim and equipment was higher in the 911S, and it was available for an additional $1000 in the US market, bring its base price to just a shade under $7000 in coupe form . . .

. . . The Targa, Porsche’s unique safety convertible with integrated roll bar, was available for on any model (912, 911 or 911S) for an additional $400, which made the 911S Targa the most expensive standard production street Porsche available at the time, and the 1968 911S Targa had the lowest production volume of any 1967-73 911 variant with 442 units built. Initially available with zip out soft rear window only, an optional heated glass rear window became officially available in February of 1968, and eventually became standard by the 1970 model year . . .

. . . This particular car was built in December of 1967 yet is equipped with glass rear window, three months before the option was officially available. This is the first hint that this car was ordered by someone special, someone who had some extra “pull” at Porsche. The factory Kardex indicates several other unusual options, including 100 liter endurance fuel tank, travel ski bag, and two Barverkauf suitcases. The car was also ordered with Webasto heater, tinted glass, loudspeaker, antenna, headrests, and Dunlop tires, and was originally finished in Tangerine with corduroy interior. Reportedly, the car is also experimentally equipped with 5 inch front wheels and 5.5 inch rear wheels in an effort to neutralize the handling of the car, which diverges from the typical equipment of both the 1967 (4.5 inches all round) and 1968 (5.5 inches all round) 911S . . .

. . . The Kardex indicates that the car was originally ordered by Jürgen Neuhaus, a factory Porsche racing driver who had a distinguished career driving the Carrera 6 (he won seven of eight outings in the car in 1967), the 911S (14 victories in 1967), basically any variant of the 911, and the 917. In fact, in 1970, Neuhaus became the first champion of the Interserie Championship (the European equivalent to Can-Am), driving the 917. Neuhaus went on to race for Kremer during the 70s, a period during which the cars were often faster than the factory Werks cars, much to the irritation of Porsche . . .

In a 2012 interview about this car, Neuhaus remembered it vividly, recounting that he ordered it with the 100 liter fuel tank because that was the specification of the cars he raced and he liked having the additional range. The suitcases and ski bags were to facilitate his frequent ski trips in Switzerland, which also motivated the inclusion of the heated glass rear window. Incidentally, at the time of the interview, Neuhaus was still instructing at Hockenheim and the Nurburgring. In the early 70s, Neuhaus sold the car to a young man, then 18 years old, who bought it because he could not afford a Ferrari 275. That fellow, Klaus Werner, subsequently went on to become a collector and eventually bought the 275 he was seeking. He was also interviewed about this car in 2012, recounting that he kept the car until the local Porsche dealer inquired about purchasing it for Porsche of Beverly Hills on behalf of an American plastic surgeon who collected Porsches and Lamborghinis. The car remained in Beverly Hills until the 1990s, before being passed on to a collector in Texas. The car was restored during this period and the car’s color changed to its current red . . .

. . . This matching numbers car is extraordinarily complete with factory tool roll, tools, Certificate of Authenticity, a copy of the factory Kardex, original brochures (a large one, a smaller folding one, and a color), a shadowbox display containing a Jürgen Neuhaus watch, hat, and two shirts. The tool roll is extremely complete aside from the spark plug wrench, including polishing cloth and Messko tire pressure gauge . . .

. . . The car has seen considerable recent service work in the last 1000 miles, including a new clutch, and an extensive service completed by Hi Tec Auto in San Rafael, California completed in November of 2013. The service totaled approximately $11,000 and included rebuilt carburetors, new suspension bushings (to the sway bars, spring plates, and front control arms), several new fuel hoses, new motor mounts, valve adjustment and full service with oil change, brake fluid flush, rebuilt front brake calipers, new front brake pads, and miscellaneous electrical fixes . . .

. . . The car presents very nicely. The paintwork was done to high standards and makes a strong overall impression, being lustrous and well-executed. There are a few stone chips to the front of the car, as well as a crack in the bottom of the passenger’s door. The body is excellent with good gaps and panel fit. The top is in excellent shape as well. The wheels have been refinished and are fresh in appearance. The grille and trim are excellent and the chrome is very nice overall, with some pitting in evidence . . .

. . . The interior is extremely nice with excellent dashboard, correct plush carpets, and correct for the S basketweave dashboard. The car also has its correct S instruments. The seats, carpets, switches, and controls are in excellent shape. The car is equipped with period correct Blaupunkt radio . . .

. . . The engine compartment is extremely clean and is nicely detailed. In terms of condition, it is not far off of show condition. The sheetmetal has been correctly refinished and the car has its correct red fan shroud. The engine has been retrofitted with Carrera hydraulic chain tensioners. The trunk is structurally excellent and in good cosmetic condition. The carpets is excellent and the overall presentation is correct and tidy. The smuggler’s box is unrestored but extremely solid . . .

. . . This is a truly unrepeatable opportunity to acquire a historically significant 911S Targa with fantastic provenance and unique equipment. This matching numbers car was originally ordered by a championship-winning factory Porsche race driver with a host of unique racing options and is reported to be the very first glass window Targa ever built. Today it survives in excellent condition with its original engine and transmission, tools, a host of fascinating documents and artifacts that support the provenance of the car. Included among these is a narrative written in 2012 that recounts the interviews conducted in Germany with the car’s first and second owners, Jürgen Neuhaus and Klaus Werner . . .


Previous appearances . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...light=11850164
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...light=11850164

(Not mine)

[Peanut]

My car has a very similar leather cover on the steering wheel. How did these come originally? Is this something that was done after the original, or is this how they came? The leather on mine is still soft, so I assumed it was later.

[rower]

Bad color and guarantee that the car was originally a SWT and was replaced with glass. Too bad. I hope he gets it !!

No, the cardex shows fixed glass not a softie.

[Bill Simmeth]

This is also the reason that I did not offer it directly to the members here.

Given some of the responses to current and recent For Sale threads, I'd say that's a good decision for any reason.

Best wishes for your sale and new acquisition.

[beh911]

Given some of the responses to current and recent For Sale threads, I'd say that's a good decision for any reason.

Best wishes for your sale and new acquisition.

Couldn't agree more. Seller is doing the right thing in this climate--members picking apart each other's cars and offering negative opinions on color, etc (now Tangerine isn't "in" anymore... really?)

And thanks for the explanation of your ownership and work done to it. Good luck with the sale.