If we all made up to our wives this well there would be no divorce.
I'm pretty new to this forum and I probably post too much. I do have to say there is a certain edge to the conversations that I did not "get" right away. That led to Beck and I peeing on each other last month. However as I start to learn more I do expect to buy Frank a beer someday if we cross paths (but not swords)
Yep. All good with Dennis and me. I look forward to that beer.
I believe the "edge" he is referring to may simply be man speak. Call a spade a spade. Engage in honest communication.
It is healthy to recognize the cultural differences in language and embrace the fact that we all live very different lives.
I'm sure I'm regurgitating something I've said in the past but here goes again:
This community is a microcosm of our civil society. (I say civil because there exist an evil society as well.) People have forgotten the basic rule: Respect one another. Civil discourse has turned into "If you don't agree with me I no longer respect you." Think about the ills of society. The root problem is that we've forgotten how to love and respect one another. I can love someone and vehemently disagree with them (Family?). Mr. Miller and I are polar opposites politically. Our world views shape our behavior and opinions. He does not share my view of God and I don't agree with his progressive ways. Because of this there will be contention, wrestling, and conflict. That, my friends is healthy as long as respect is maintained.
The next time you are tempted to be offended by someone's words, grant them some charity and assume that they are not out to get you but they simply communicate differently than you do. Seek clarification in what they're saying before you go off on them.
Personally I could care less if someone thinks I'm Riff Raff or a poopy head. My intrinsic value is not determined by what others think of me. My mission is to challenge status quo and to spur thinking. There will always be collateral damage while doing so. However, if you think I'm dishonoring you while jousting, call me out on it. Apologizing is something I do often.
Ok, off my soapbox.
^^^^Well said and spot on^^^^^^
OG3
RG715
I do have to interject here.Bottom line, lets not forget what transpired the new ebb
My friend joe listed products for sale
moderators kicked him off with no due cause ( other than parts of mine are well known)
moderators requested transactions be completed ( no ability to contact buyers due to moderators)
Product was shipped based on commitment via PMs and agreement
Product was received by buyers verifiable by tracking info
Product not paid for or returned
No communication from buyers via email or paypal
moderators contacted and advised of situation ( within a week of receipt of product by customers)
moderators promise to resolve
almost 8 weeks of no response
no actual evidence buyers were ever contacted by moderators ( as of today )
raj
Last edited by Original Poster; 05-13-2015 at 06:14 AM.
The last two bullets are false. And I continue to be involved as seen in Post #24.
Peter Kane
'72 911S Targa
Message Board Co-Moderator - Early 911S Registry #100
raj
In fairness to members here and as I stated above, I had a devil of a time with the PayPal. The day I received the coil, PayPal was still saying they had not been able to get you, the recipient to receive the payment. I always pay as soon as I get a response and I am sure other members do the same. Being OCD, or worse, I keep checking PayPal to make sure payment went through. Learned early on that a payment can sit there if sent to wrong PayPal address. If I did not check and part arrived, I would assume payment has been made. Perhaps this has been a partial problem with payments for your parts?
Respectfully
Tom
joeOriginally Posted by 72targa
told me multiple requests to chuck went unanswered
there was never communication form you or the site tech
there has never been any proof provided the customers were ever communicated to other than by joe
joe is still unable to post even tho he re-registered as Porschest66 to communicate with buyers
yes you posted here that was almost 6 weeks from when the customers received the products
raj
tom
all packages delivered had paypal email info attached porschest65@gmail.com..............zero communication.
Last edited by Original Poster; 05-13-2015 at 06:40 AM.
Raj,
Just catching up on this building drama.
A couple pages back you in essence stated you left the forum and decided to take down all of your posts and threads you had started (many of the key reference threads on this site) to prove some sort of point to the moderators. Then you say that the hobby is not about one person but about collective sharing, etc.
How can someone so concerned about the community well being, so in touch with the fact that this truly is only a hobby, be so at odds in action and words? Slashing and burning the content on the forum as you left in frustration seemed sorta drastic and not very community minded to many of us.
I'm not standing up for what has become questionable moderating around here lately, and definitely can't speak to whatever is going on with your parts (how hard is Paypal, really?), but there are definitely two sides to this.
I hope you return in your enthusiasm and you and the mods can get past whatever it is between you
raj
Not saying you didn't send PayPal info. Only saying I paid via PayPal on the day I communicated the order and PayPal told me that no one was accepting the PayPal payment that had been sent. Go a message from you guys stating that would be straightened out. Guess it was ultimately done since my records reflect that you received the payment in your name. Just asking if possible that others encountered the same problem as I did and cancelled payments because not accepted (a PayPal option). Sorry if I am adding to confusion. Just want to believe better of fellow forum members.
Tom
This whole thread is painful and seems like a bunch of passive aggressive BS. For god's sake, put together a conf. call, talk to each other, sort it out, air gripes, get people their stuff, get it paid for, figure it out and fix it person to person. Get everyone back on the forum. I promise you that 1) it won't be fatal and 2) you will feel better after.
There are even FREE conf call services. This could be over this afternoon.
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